Modern Science proves the Authenticity of the Glorious Qur'an

[Gharib]

George Bush is a fool, if i ever met him i'd kick him in the face too.

here here.

I don't believe in a higher power that would ask us to submit.

so one is forcing you to believe it, just like no one is forcing me.

What is there to know? He is a muslim leader and he is calling for the destruction of Israel. There are all sorts of problems with that. Those people need to learn to live and let live, the Ottomans lost world war one and the sub sequent invasions of Israel so they don't deserve to control the territory.

the ottoman empire didn't exist in WW1, what are you saying?
did it?

I only know what the media said. They said they were Lebonese muslims. I wasn't there and i'm thankful. West Sydney is a disgusting place and its a shame the government let it get the way it is. Friends of mine used to live in a largely Syrian area and there were never any problems until the Lebonese started arriving in their thousands. A lot of the ones are muslims, but not all of them. Since you live here you should know that the general idea is if the person is arabic, they're automatically assumed to be a muslim. Stereotypes are harmful.

so the stereotypes in this case are the non muslims who think that all arabs are muslims right?
and the media has never told anything true, so why believe it?

A lot of them are. You can't argue with the statistics sadly, thats just how it is.

i'm not denying they arent' i think 60% of them are muslims.

Oh i know. Such is war. The Americans are pretty bad, throughout all wars they've been known to bomb even their own troops.

yeah such is war, killing innocent people. thats not a war, thats crimes against humanity, and those crimes desserve to be punishable by death.

So letting the Taleban rule is a good thing? Im sure the soldiers would love to go home to their families rather than getting shot at by disgruntled civilians who've been taught to kill infidels.

what are you talking about? the taliban never existed, untill the US was planing to invade the middle east. they are afghani people deffending their country and their people from weirdos like the US.

Why would we do that? Seems like a waste of time to me. Its Islams responsibility to control their flock.

we do, but then some non muslim who knows nothing will come along and BAM. here we are know.

He is a leader and influences others, he should leave. If our Prime-Minister said all Muslims carry bombs and should wear non-muslims clothing, you'd be pretty upset wouldn't you?

you bet.

The radio person is an idiot, he needs to be sent to Iran to learn a thing or two about what he is insulting.

you know, i like you sometimes, you seem like a person who uses his brain.

 

[Gharib]

Eselam, do you realize how much rage and hatred is pouring out of you in these last few posts. I'm sort of used to you and I am a little surprised. My guess is that you are still very young. Under 20?

i wouldn't call it hatred, but i'm really anoyed by many non muslims, i hope i don't go over my limits because then i will regret it like an animal, this is me going easy when angry or outraged, i don't want to step out of my boundaries.

us muslims always try to keep our cool everytime a non muslim insults us, but how do you like ti when we return the favour?

i oppened this thread to post some things and i get a bunch of people who don't know how to tie a donkey telling me this and that. mind your bussiness, just like i am minding mine (this is not directed at you YmirGF)

 

[darkendless]

the ottoman empire didn't exist in WW1, what are you saying?
did it?

Well whoever controlled Jerusalem politically at the time lost the war. Following that there were more invasions of Israel at which the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians etc lost the war. The destruction of Israel will only bring more suffering to everyone involved.

so the stereotypes in this case are the non muslims who think that all arabs are muslims right?
and the media has never told anything true, so why believe it?

Yes thats right. I don't believe it because i know better. But a lot of Australians do not know better. Do you get the show called Today Tonight or A current Affair in WA? It was on that show and it is so biased, terrible.

yeah such is war, killing innocent people. thats not a war, thats crimes against humanity, and those crimes desserve to be punishable by death.

I think the war was a mistake. But then again, when oil is involved Sadly the innocent have and always will die with the guilty.

what are you talking about? the taliban never existed, untill the US was planing to invade the middle east. they are afghani people deffending their country and their people from weirdos like the US.

Didn't the Taleban rule Afghanistan for a few years? At school i was taught America supported them for 3 or 4 years because they stabalized Afghanistan. Then when they brought Sharia law in America broke ties? Am i wrong?

we do, but then some non muslim who knows nothing will come along and BAM. here we are know.

It seems not though. Because innocent Muslims are forced to go on TV to try and explain to people in the West who don't know anything that these people are not true representations of Islam. Sure some people know better, but the average person here in Australia does not know the difference between mainstream Islam and a muslim extremist who blows up something. Do you understand what im trying to say?

 

[Gharib]

Well whoever controlled Jerusalem politically at the time lost the war. Following that there were more invasions of Israel at which the Egyptians, Syrians, Jordanians etc lost the war. The destruction of Israel will only bring more suffering to everyone involved.

the nazis controlled it. hitler was the leader, he lost the war and the israelis got freed from him.

Yes thats right. I don't believe it because i know better. But a lot of Australians do not know better. Do you get the show called Today Tonight or A current Affair in WA? It was on that show and it is so biased, terrible.

how'd you know i'm from WA?

we do have them, but i rarely watch anything they have to say.

the only channel that is realiable in the truth are those dcumentaries from SBS.

I think the war was a mistake. But then again, when oil is involved Sadly the innocent have and always will die with the guilty.

yes thats the sad part.

Didn't the Taleban rule Afghanistan for a few years? At school i was taught America supported them for 3 or 4 years because they stabalized Afghanistan. Then when they brought Sharia law in America broke ties? Am i wrong?

thats the first time i've heard this. and i doubt that it is true.
it was Saddam that the US supported for many years, then when they invaded iraq, we got the alqaeda, and soon the taliban.

i don't think they existed, if they did, people would know of them from an earlier time. just like you mentioned.

It seems not though. Because innocent Muslims are forced to go on TV to try and explain to people in the West who don't know anything that these people are not true representations of Islam.

no one is forced, i'm not forced telling you about it. the only people that speak on TV are scholars and no one can force them, they are the leaders of islam for know.

Sure some people know better, but the average person here in Australia does not know the difference between mainstream Islam and a muslim extremist who blows up something. Do you understand what im trying to say?

yes i do know.

 

[darkendless]

the nazis controlled it. hitler was the leader, he lost the war and the israelis got freed from him.

Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It was controlled by the Ottomans until 1917.

how'd you know i'm from WA?

we do have them, but i rarely watch anything they have to say.

the only channel that is realiable in the truth are those dcumentaries from SBS.

From another thread where you were discussing with Seven.

I only watch SBS news because to be honest, there is never anything interesting happening in Australia. SBS is world news and it is accurate.

thats the first time i've heard this. and i doubt that it is true.
it was Saddam that the US supported for many years, then when they invaded iraq, we got the alqaeda, and soon the taliban.

i don't think they existed, if they did, people would know of them from an earlier time. just like you mentioned.

I'm not sure, i will have to brush up on my recent history.

no one is forced, i'm not forced telling you about it. the only people that speak on TV are scholars and no one can force them, they are the leaders of islam for know.

The point is they should not have to even think about going on TV for such a reason.

 

[Gharib]

Jerusalem - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia It was controlled by the Ottomans until 1917.

i never knew their empire got that far, they were ruling albania or the blcans for years, so i didn't know about that.

From another thread where you were discussing with Seven.

oh yeah.

I only watch SBS news because to be honest, there is never anything interesting happening in Australia. SBS is world news and it is accurate.

no news are accurate, they always edit the truth to make it more appealing to the public.

I'm not sure, i will have to brush up on my recent history.

well i'm not sure know, is you who have correct info or is it me? i'll do some investigation on this, just so i know.

The point is they should not have to even think about going on TV for such a reason.

theres no harm in that, they are just like the pope who goes on TV telling people about things. there's not much difference.

 

[ProudMuslim]

Many years of violence from the lebonese muslim community. A group of youths of that decent beat up 2 lifesavers on patrol at Cronulla beach. That was the event that sparked the riot. It would have happened anyway, there's been years of hate building up.

That is a poor excuse for the white supremacists of your country.

In my country we have westerners (and other Christians from Philippines) violate our laws every single day. Most recently are the "public sex on beaches", in fact an English woman fought with the police when he asked her to stop. Did you see riots in UAE for that? Did people go out in the streets and have "Bash Brits", "No to Christians" or any sort of that crazy attitude? No

My point is clear here. The way your fellow 5000 white Australians acted "in respond" to the beach incident was abhorring and reflect very poor image of Australians and Australia. Instead of defending them, you could've said those gangs were wrong but the riots were also wrong and i would have appreciate and understand your concern. There is no justification whatsoever for the racism that took place in that event. Pure and simple.

Johnny is out of office. We're not terrorists, we're trying to help your backward, hell-holes of countries

Which hell-holes backward countries are you helping?

Do you really believe any sane person will need the help of a nation made up of convicts?

 

[kai]

Essalam the Taliban have been around since the 1980s

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[darkendless]

That is a poor excuse for the white supremacists of your country.

In my country we have westerners (and other Christians from Philippines) violate our laws every single day. Most recently are the "public sex on beaches", in fact an English woman fought with the police when he asked her to stop. Did you see riots in UAE for that? Did people go out in the streets and have "Bash Brits", "No to Christians" or any sort of that crazy attitude? No

My point is clear here. The way your fellow 5000 white Australians acted "in respond" to the beach incident was abhorring and reflect very poor image of Australians and Australia. Instead of defending them, you could've said those gangs were wrong but the riots were also wrong and i would have appreciate and understand your concern. There is no justification whatsoever for the racism that took place in that event. Pure and simple.



Which hell-holes backward countries are you helping?

Do you really believe any sane person will need the help of a nation made up of convicts?

Do Brits live as permanent citizens in your country and violate the laws? Do they cause violence and make your streets unsafe at night? Do your children automatically hate them because they know they have to fear them at school? That riot was against muslim and lebonese people comming to our country and making it worse. Do not criticise what you do not understand because you really have no idea.

Our soldiers and engineers are rebuilding Afghanistan and Iraq. Perhaps we should leave?

Convicts, thats ******* insulting. I don't call you a towel head or terrorist so grow up, your personal insults are pathetic.

 

[Gharib]

Essalam the Taliban have been around since the 1980s

Taliban - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

ok, i didn't know about it, but they are doing a good job.

 

[Gharib]

Do Brits live as permanent citizens in your country and violate the laws? Do they cause violence and make your streets unsafe at night? Do your children automatically hate them because they know they have to fear them at school? That riot was against muslim and lebonese people comming to our country and making it worse. Do not criticise what you do not understand because you really have no idea.

hey darkendless, that fear has been brought upon the people by the government. it is not my fault or of any other muslim.

Our soldiers and engineers are rebuilding Afghanistan and Iraq. Perhaps we should leave?

but i told you, you were not invited. so i recon you might as well.

Convicts, thats ******* insulting. I don't call you a towel head or terrorist so grow up, your personal insults are pathetic.

toungue please.
that was not personal, you've got it wrong.
if it was personal then why didn't you take my previos statement personal too, the one about the environment minister being a drug addict, just like many other politicians who claimed themself that many of them have smoked "crack" in their life time?

 

[kai]

ok, i didn't know about it, but they are doing a good job.

are they?

In the past two years, the Taliban have blown up over 200 girls' schools, beheaded 50 government officials, bombed countless police checkpoints, executed women they deemed immoral, publicly lashed those who disobeyed them and cut up the bodies of people they thought were spies, leaving them in the centre of the valley for the residents to see.


Dispatches - Exclusive - Pakistan's Taliban Generation - Channel 4

 

[darkendless]

hey darkendless, that fear has been brought upon the people by the government. it is not my fault or of any other muslim.

The government doesnt care as long as they pay their taxes. As a teenager putting up with these people took courage. Its quite disappointing to be honest. Assaults are common, its pathetic.

but i told you, you were not invited. so i recon you might as well.

No one ever is.

toungue please.
that was not personal, you've got it wrong.
if it was personal then why didn't you take my previos statement personal too, the one about the environment minister being a drug addict, just like many other politicians who claimed themself that many of them have smoked "crack" in their life time?

Being called a convict is more offensive than you attacking Peter Garret, he really is an idiot.

 

[Gharib]

The government doesnt care as long as they pay their taxes. As a teenager putting up with these people took courage. Its quite disappointing to be honest. Assaults are common, its pathetic.

oh what about the recent graffiti on a mosque down here in perth?
what have we done to desserve that stuff?
there are always criminals, but don't pin their stupidity on others.

No one ever is.

exactly, just like no one invited me to oz, i came by my self cos i wanted to.

Being called a convict is more offensive than you attacking Peter Garret, he really is an idiot.

well us muslims being called terrorists is way more offencive than being called a convict.

we can play that all day, but i think we should stop. do you agree?

 

[Gharib]

are they?

In the past two years, the Taliban have blown up over 200 girls' schools, beheaded 50 government officials, bombed countless police checkpoints, executed women they deemed immoral, publicly lashed those who disobeyed them and cut up the bodies of people they thought were spies, leaving them in the centre of the valley for the residents to see.


Dispatches - Exclusive - Pakistan's Taliban Generation - Channel 4

well i didn't know about that, thanks i'll remember this post next time i wright anything about them.

 

[darkendless]

oh what about the recent graffiti on a mosque down here in perth?
what have we done to desserve that stuff?
there are always criminals, but don't pin their stupidity on others.

Probably nothing, but the offenders don't care.

exactly, just like no one invited me to oz, i came by my self cos i wanted to.

Before the recession this country had a lot of work to offer and with that many oppurtunities.

well us muslims being called terrorists is way more offencive than being called a convict.

we can play that all day, but i think we should stop. do you agree?

More offensive? Being called a convict because we were founded by convicts is just as offensive. Im not calling anyone a towelhead, i was responding to Proudmuslim by saying i don't call you by these names so don't call me a convict, its insulting.

 

[Gharib]

More offensive? Being called a convict because we were founded by convicts is just as offensive. Im not calling anyone a towelhead, i was responding to Proudmuslim by saying i don't call you by these names so don't call me a convict, its insulting.

so whats the problem then if it is true? (i'm just trying to understand the point of it)
it's only been 2 generations 3 including you.

well you don't have to worry about that, since not all aussies are here due to the people UK brought here, many others have come here from other countries. so why get offended by it? they were cons, and thats a fact. you can't change the past, so you just have to accept it, right?

i never knew that aussies were quite touchy about this. there is still more to learn.

 

[darkendless]

so whats the problem then if it is true? (i'm just trying to understand the point of it)
it's only been 2 generations 3 including you.

well you don't have to worry about that, since not all aussies are here due to the people UK brought here, many others have come here from other countries. so why get offended by it? they were cons, and thats a fact. you can't change the past, so you just have to accept it, right?

i never knew that aussies were quite touchy about this. there is still more to learn.

The convicts were brought here in 1777 lol. Thats like 15 generations. Also most of the founding (including WA and QLD) were by settlers, and not convicts at all. All the convicts did was found a small settlement outside Sydney. Then they were sent to Tasmania (i know it explains a lot).

Then again, i wasn't born in Australia i was born in New Zealand, so im not a convict anyway. Still, the post i got annoyed over was a direct personal attack aimed to insight a response.

 

[Gharib]

The convicts were brought here in 1777 lol. Thats like 15 generations. Also most of the founding (including WA and QLD) were by settlers, and not convicts at all. All the convicts did was found a small settlement outside Sydney. Then they were sent to Tasmania (i know it explains a lot).

Then again, i wasn't born in Australia i was born in New Zealand, so im not a convict anyway. Still, the post i got annoyed over was a direct personal attack aimed to insight a response.

so whats with all the offencive thing?

it doesn't include you, and it wasn't personal, it just was a general statement.
thanks for the insight though, i didn't know about it.

i would strongly be encouraging you to take things less offencive, it is not worth while to get offended like that (how you did). i too get offended, so what?

and didn't the UK send convicts to NZ too? (i'm only kidding, ok. don't take it serious)

 

[darkendless]

so whats with all the offencive thing?

it doesn't include you, and it wasn't personal, it just was a general statement.
thanks for the insight though, i didn't know about it.

i would strongly be encouraging you to take things less offencive, it is not worth while to get offended like that (how you did). i too get offended, so what?

and didn't the UK send convicts to NZ too? (i'm only kidding, ok. don't take it serious)

Well if i'm a convict then so are you because we both moved here :angel2:

" Do you really believe any sane person will need the help of a nation made up of convicts?" <<<< Thats not a very nice thing to say and was directed at me.

The UK sent convicts everywhere, NZ is probably full of convicts as well, they just didn't tell anyone