Modern Science proves the Authenticity of the Glorious Qur'an

[3.14]

i wonder how many womans would they have cut open to look at what a embryo looks like?

 

[ProudMuslim]

If Islam is so great, why aren't westerns flocking to your homeland in record numbers?

Why is this? Could it be the the laws and beliefs of Islam create unstable, undesirable society (overpopulation, cruety to women, lack of science/invention) etc?

There are hundreds of thousands of Westerners living in Gulf countries alone. In countries what most of you consider "conservative" Muslim countries.

 

[themadhair]

far too many western scientists do prove that the scientific evidences found in the Qur'an are not man made.

So, in essence, you are using the scientific knowledge discovered by man to prove that the same scientific knowledge allegedly in the koran was not discovered by man?

And the Greeks get the shaft yet again.

 

[3.14]

you will see the sun today

5000 years later

he you guys this book predicted that the sun would shine today and its totaly right

 

[ProudMuslim]

I don't think i know about Islam. Ha, Muslims need to mind their own business. Wasn't it UK Muslims who wanted Sharia implemented here? Wasn't it Abu Hamza who fought to implement it? Who publicly supported the DISGUSTING Taliban, Al-Qaeda and Bin Laden? No. Because Muslims always mind their business.

Isn't Abu Hamza the same guy Yemen asked Britain to handover due to terrorism charges in Yemen in which UK refused!! Your country supported that man so if you want to complain, dont indulge Islam in this but complain about your government attitude and how they got all "higher than thou' about Yemen legal system and charges. The man was clearly a manic back then.

When Muslims quit trying to change the world, we might see peace.

I think it is when the Western governments stop poking their noses in other nations affairs, is when you might see some peace.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

Isn't Abu Hamza the same guy Yemen asked Britain to handover due to terrorism charges in Yemen in which UK refused!! Your country supported that man so if you want to complain, dont indulge Islam in this but complain about your government attitude and how they got all "higher than thou' about Yemen legal system and charges. The man was clearly a manic back then.

Does this make what he did ok?

I think it is when the Western governments stop poking their noses in other nations affairs, is when you might see some peace.

We should just leave Iran to make whatever nuclear weapons they want to build, let them brow Israel to bits... Nahhh, it is not up to us to keep peace. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I am not American, but at least they intervene in terror. All the Muslim world does it burn American flags... This does not mean i wholly support their wars.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

It always comes down to the same thing.

Some religious fundamentalist tries to convince the world that the knowledge gained from mankind's efforts in the discipline of science somehow confirm the holiness of their particular sacred text.

This entire thread is a great example of someone looking (desperately) for vindication of their particular mythology.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

So, in essence, you are using the scientific knowledge discovered by man to prove that the same scientific knowledge allegedly in the koran was not discovered by man?

And the Greeks get the shaft yet again.

All that knowledge was there many years before in India and China, and a lot of it was already in Arabia. Things were civil back then. Mathemeticians and Scientists shared inventions... All for the Europeans to take credit!

 

[themadhair]

It always comes down to the same thing.

Some religious fundamentalist tries to convince the world that the knowledge gained from mankind's efforts in the discipline of science somehow confirm the holiness of their particular sacred text.

This entire thread is a great example of someone looking (desperately) for vindication of their particular mythology.

What he said. The fact (and yes, it is a fact) that these scientific discoveries only became known after people doing research actually discovered them, completely without any involvement of the koran, should be the clue that there is a flaw in claiming the koran is a science book.

 

[themadhair]

All that knowledge was there many years before in India and China, and a lot of it was already in Arabia. Things were civil back then. Mathemeticians and Scientists shared inventions... All for the Europeans to take credit!

There is no small among of irony here in that holding the position that of divine koranic knowledge requires a massive ignorance of both science and history.

 

[kai]

i wonder how many womans would they have cut open to look at what a embryo looks like?

actually none at all, due to miscarriages.

 

[Fatihah]

What he said. The fact (and yes, it is a fact) that these scientific discoveries only became known after people doing research actually discovered them, completely without any involvement of the koran, should be the clue that there is a flaw in claiming the koran is a science book.

Response: According to your statement, if these scientific discoveries were discovered without the qur'an, that would make the science in the qur'an miraculous because man had nothing to do with it.

 

[themadhair]

actually none at all, due to miscarriages.

Actually I believe that much of the knowledge Galen the Greek physician discovered regarding anatomy was via dissecting monkeys.

 

[themadhair]

Response: According to your statement, if these scientific discoveries were discovered without the qur'an, that would make the science in the qur'an miraculous because man had nothing to do with it.

Essentially you are claiming the knowledge in the koran was not discovered by man. The fact that man discovered that knowledge is evidence against this claim, and the fact that much of so-called koranic knowledge predates it with Greek, Egyptian, Indian, etc. discoveries simply makes it laughable.

 

[Azakel]

All that knowledge was there many years before in India and China, and a lot of it was already in Arabia. Things were civil back then. Mathemeticians and Scientists shared inventions... All for the Europeans to take credit!

Who said they took all the credit, Greece figure out thing before even, people in India did. Not everything come form there, I will not take away credit from India but it seem that everyone no mater what want;s to take credit away from the West.

 

[eugenius]

There are hundreds of thousands of Westerners living in Gulf countries alone. In countries what most of you consider "conservative" Muslim countries.

Hundreds of Thousands!!!! There are millions and millions of mulsim who leave their homeland every year. The ratios are not even remotely close to being even.

I assume the westerners move because of the military, high paying oil related jobs and not because they like the weather, landscape or laws.

 

[The Voice of Reason]

Response: According to your statement, if these scientific discoveries were discovered without the qur'an, that would make the science in the qur'an miraculous because man had nothing to do with it.

Just to be sure I understand you correctly - are you saying that man had nothing to do with what is written in the Koran?

 

[ProudMuslim]

Hundreds of Thousands!!!! There are millions and millions of mulsim who leave their homeland every year. The ratios are not even remotely close to being even.

I assume the westerners move because of the military, high paying oil related jobs and not because they like the weather, landscape or laws.

I think Westerners move because of the money, and the Muslims move because of job opportunities and not because of western values.

 

[ProudMuslim]

We should just leave Iran to make whatever nuclear weapons they want to build, let them brow Israel to bits... Nahhh, it is not up to us to keep peace. Damned if you do and damned if you don't. I am not American, but at least they intervene in terror. All the Muslim world does it burn American flags... This does not mean i wholly support their wars.

I think the entire world will support the West persistance in depriving Iran from possessing Nuclear weapons, if they themselves got rid of those weapon of mass destructions. Right now they look like big fat hypocrites. The world will never be safe as long as there is one country possessing WMDs.

 

[ProudMuslim]

All that knowledge was there many years before in India and China, and a lot of it was already in Arabia. Things were civil back then. Mathemeticians and Scientists shared inventions... All for the Europeans to take credit!

No one is arguing here that ancient civilizations had their fair share in enriching the world with scientific discoveries. The question i have raised multiple times and never get an answer for is if all the "vague scientific knowledge" in the Qur'an was common many years before Islam, can you prove that in any documented ancient book? I am specifically talking about the Qur'anic scientific knowledge so i don't want to hear about something scientific but it is not mentioned in the Quran. I would like to understand where from did the Qur'an got its information in your opinion.

It is very simple since you speak of confidence then there must be some support to your claim. The reason why i am asking this question is maybe if you are tired from Muslims repeating the thing about the Qur'an scientific revelations, then you can easily show us where did Muhammed (PBUH) "copied" them from, otherwise you will have to accept our stance.