Muhammad (peace and blessings of Allah be upon him) in the Eyes of Non-Muslims

[Gharib]

ok look i think we should leave the queen out of this, i'm tired of speaking about her. can we talk about something else. bring up a topic or make a question ok

 

[England my lionheart]

does her wealth come from the sky by anychance.

i'm starting to sound very bad with these childish questions aren't i.
they discoverd australia in 1770 i think or somewhere close to that, how can you not know that, you are all part of the comonwealth, and it is not that they wish to have strong ties with england but because they have no choice. just wait untill one of these countries breaks up from the comonwealth then you will see.

And so what if they do,some have already but many have'nt because they like to be a part of it

 

[Don Penguinoini]

does her wealth come from the sky by anychance.

i'm starting to sound very bad with these childish questions aren't i.
they discoverd australia in 1770 i think or somewhere close to that, how can you not know that, you are all part of the comonwealth, and it is not that they wish to have strong ties with england but because they have no choice. just wait untill one of these countries breaks up from the comonwealth then you will see.

Her money comes from English taxpayers...

Yes, you sound incredibly stupid. It is not that they have no choice, where the hell are you getting this from?

 

[England my lionheart]

ok look i think we should leave the queen out of this, i'm tired of speaking about her. can we talk about something else. bring up a topic or make a question ok

OK why are women and Homosexuals treated so badly in Saudi Arabia and Iran for example.

 

[Gharib]

didn't i say to leave the queen out of this just before. i have my reasosning agaist her just you 2 do for her so well just leave it, ok. don do you wish to bring something up that we can speak about?

 

[Steinninn]

Eselam,out of curiousity how old are you

How old are you? I'm 24.

 

[Gharib]

OK why are women and Homosexuals treated so badly in Saudi Arabia and Iran for example.

can you hang on for a second i will go apoen a new thread ang give you the link ok,
it will be this: Islam, how much do you really know about it, ok

 

[Gharib]

i am under 20

 

[Don Penguinoini]

didn't i say to leave the queen out of this just before. i have my reasosning agaist her just you 2 do for her so well just leave it, ok. don do you wish to bring something up that we can speak about?

You say these things which are wrong. It is jsut wrong, it is nothing to do with with reasoning, it is jsut WRONG. Why won't you listen?

 

[Luminous]

yeah right. don't tell me i know about it, why are you 2 defending her royal chair anyway.
are english men offended if someonse speak bad about their queen? i don't care

Yos people no longer have Caliphates or Khanates, so you wouldn't know about loyalty to the representatives. Besides England delt with thier Kingship in a different way.

 

[Luminous]

oh so on whose hands is australia? there are 3 countries that i can think of who have prime ministers and the 3 of them go bankrupt when the queen visits them. why is that?

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cuz she steals their money!

:biglaugh:

 

[Gharib]

cuz she steals their money!

yes thank you for agreeing with me

 

[Gharib]

ok heres the link that i was talking about Islam, how much do you really know about it?
you can make any sorts of question ragarding the religion.

 

[England my lionheart]

ok heres the link that i was talking about Islam, how much do you really know about it?
you can make any sorts of question ragarding the religion.

Eselam,i am off to bed as it is 1.30 am and i have a busy day tommorow
Goodnight

 

[Gharib]

ok see you tommorrow, have a good night

 

[kai]

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cuz she steals their money!

:biglaugh:

So she steals countries money and makes them bankrupt, of course that explains her wealth, what an evil genius ,she has fooled us all, i am e-mailing the Australian government right now ,she will not get away with this, Oh if only Sherlock Holmes was here he could foil her plans.

 

[England my lionheart]

To get back on track,do you think the legacy of Muhammed and his followers has been of benefit to the Human race,things like Human rights,free speech,treatment of Women and Homosexuals or lack of Democracy in the Arab world

 

[Steinninn]

To get back on track,do you think the legacy of Muhammed and his followers has been of benefit to the Human race,things like Human rights,free speech,treatment of Women and Homosexuals or lack of Democracy in the Arab world

Are you asking a specific user or us in general?

I'd say, for the first few hundred years, yes.
Now... partially.

You have to understand how the situation was before Muhammed came. Things were out of controle in the arab countries. Muhammed brought unity and peace.

 

[Gharib]

to England My Lionheart,

Muhammed (saws) was a mercy for humans, he was here to unite people, he was a prophet for the whole world unlike all the others before him who were for some people or some tribes. so his legacy is for people to live in peace and have no fears, everyone to be equal, the rich helping the poor, the strong helping the weak, etc. but that is hard for us as muslims to do unless we have a leader to controll everything, a leader that we can listen to, so untill that happens, which Allah has promised it will, then non muslims will never be able to understand the life of a muslim.

 

[YmirGF]

does her wealth come from the sky by anychance.

i'm starting to sound very bad with these childish questions aren't i.
they discoverd australia in 1770 i think or somewhere close to that, how can you not know that, you are all part of the comonwealth, and it is not that they wish to have strong ties with england but because they have no choice. just wait untill one of these countries breaks up from the comonwealth then you will see.

Hiya Eselam,

This is for your information as it is quite apparent that you have little understanding of these matters.

Helpful links:

1. The British Commonwealth for Dummies

Please pay particular attention to the line,

"No single government in the Commonwealth, British or otherwise, exercises power over the others, as in a political union."

Not withstanding, one should also keep this in mind,

"The symbol of this free association is Queen Elizabeth II, known for this purpose as Head of the Commonwealth. This position, however, does not imbue her with any political or executive power over any Commonwealth member states; the position is purely symbolic, and it is the Commonwealth Secretary-General who is the chief executive of the organization."

2. The British Monarchy

The salient passage in this article is summed up in the following.

As a constitutional monarch, the Queen is limited to non-partisan functions such as bestowing honours. Though the ultimate executive authority over the government of the United Kingdom is still by and through the monarch's royal prerogative, in practice these powers are only used according to laws enacted in Parliament or within the constraints of convention and precedent. On the whole, the Queen must follow the advice of government ministers

3. The personal fortune of Queen Elizabeth II (From Forbes Magazine)

Queen Elizabeth II may live in Buckingham Palace and enjoy one of the world's most stunning jewelry and art collections, but she falls far short of making the Forbes Billionaires list. Forbes pegs the world's best-known reigning monarch at a relative pauper's sum of $420 million.

Now Eselam, given the relative simplicity of verifying these points, there is no good reason to live in ignorance of the facts. It is also unwise to offer opinions that are so demonstratably incorrect and expect to have your reputation remain intact. In theory, you know what Allah thinks of those who spread misinformation.

In the back of my mind, I can't help but think you are building a fraudulent attack on her Majesty, Queen Elizabeth II, in order to establish a connection with attacks made against the prophet. (IE. Your comments about Queen Elizabeth can be shown to be wrong, by checking the facts, and in theory the same can be said of those making comments about Muhammed.) That would be valid, to an extent, but for the simple reality that, in regards to Elizabeth, we know what the facts are. If we compare the veracity of that information with what we actually know about Muhammed, any connections vaporise into thin air.