Muslim Brotherhood Statement Denouncing UN Women Declaration for Violating Sharia Principles

[FearGod]

Prostitution is a fact of life. Always has been, always will be. They don't call it the world's oldest profession for nothing.

This being the case, you don't think efforts should be made to help protect women who end up being prostitutes (for whatever reason)? You don't think every human being deserves basic respect?

it is like asking me to protect and respect the Bacterial Warfare

 

[Riverwolf]

it is like asking me to protect and respect the Bacterial Warfare

How are they in any way similar?

 

[FearGod]

How are they in any way similar?

STD (Sexually Transmitted Diseases)

 

[Riverwolf]

STD (Sexually Transmitted Diseases)

Which the protection covers by making sure officiated prostitutes are frequently tested for, and if any crop up, they can no longer practice their trade.

So, that's covered: legalized and protected prostitutes would not be able to transmit diseases.

What else you got?

 

[Aquitaine]

STD (Sexually Transmitted Diseases)

You are aware that the threat of STD's and STI's also come with every other type of sexual encounter between people, regardless of their job, religion, sexuality etc. So long as they're not using adequate protection.

It even happens between married Islamic couples. :cover:

 

[Riverwolf]

You are aware that the threat of STD's and STI's also come with every other type of sexual encounter between people, regardless of their job, religion, sexuality etc. So long as they're not using adequate protection.

It even happens between married Islamic couples. :cover:

To be perfectly fair, prostitution was one of the main reasons why syphilis spread so rapidly through Europe.

But that's 'cause it was illegal and unregulated. Regulated prostitution wouldn't have that problem.

 

[F0uad]

What do you make of the story of the Tunisian topless female protester who is hearing from conservative Muslims in her country that she ought to receive at best 100 lashes for going topless in protest, and at most stoning to death?

I bring that up because if people like that are in power in a country, who adopt the more conservative elements of the Muslim Brotherhood into that country's laws and mandates, are more willing to punish women for what they consider to be crimes against their interpretation of the Qur'an and Sunnah.

And I take no issue with pointing out the problems in our own current misogynistic and patriarchal culture I currently live in and what I'd like to see change.

Thanks for making my point :bow: i will reply when you can stay to one topic or at-least be willing to look in the mirror before pointing fingers.

 

[FearGod]

To be perfectly fair, prostitution was one of the main reasons why syphilis spread so rapidly through Europe.

But that's 'cause it was illegal and unregulated. Regulated prostitution wouldn't have that problem.

is it that important task that we should use the ******* protection to approach a prostitute.

The world suffered a lot from our stupidity and still suffering specially the children whom some infected with HIV and some others became orphans.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Should be prevented,women shouldn't be used just for men's sexual desires.

Her body is slaved for men's sexual desires,man through money over her head and woman work as a slave for the pimps.

We should protect woman from prostitution and if prostitution is already existed then i am with protecting them while finding a solution to let them free from prostitution.

I find the push toward protecting institutions over human beings rather concerning. I also find concerning the immediate jump to PROSTITUTION when sexual freedom is mentioned in conservative circles. Why the jump over women who aren't looking to enter prostitution, but are looking for safe and easy access to contraception and reproductive choices?

Is there an assumption that women who aren't selling sex, but who are sleeping with any number of partners outside of marriage, are lumped in the same category as prostitutes?

Or how about if there was the perception that a woman is a prostitute, and not that she is actually selling sex as a profession? Is she lumped in the same category?

 

[WyattDerp]

i will reply when you can stay to one topic or at-least be willing to look in the mirror before pointing fingers.
The biggest problem i have with this is that you guys can't stay at your own borders raping your daughters and sisters you have to invade other countries also and do it there. Disgusting!

You say you have a problem with it, but then again you keep obsessing and dreaming about it, up to and including making **** up just to get some validation.

 

[Riverwolf]

Thanks for making my point :bow: i will reply when you can stay to one topic or at-least be willing to look in the mirror before pointing fingers.
The biggest problem i have with this is that you guys can't stay at your own borders raping your daughters and sisters you have to invade other countries also and do it there. Disgusting!

WE don't.

 

[MysticSang'ha]

Thanks for making my point :bow: i will reply when you can stay to one topic or at-least be willing to look in the mirror before pointing fingers.

Many of my posts in the debate sections here at RF tend to center over misogyny and inequality of women here in my own country. But injustice is injustice, period. And I intend to speak up when I see it regardless of what institution, religious authority, or country propagates it, shelters it, or legislates it.

 

[Riverwolf]

is it that important task that we should use the ******* protection to approach a prostitute.

The world suffered a lot from our stupidity and still suffering specially the children whom some infected with HIV and some others became orphans.

And regulated prostitution would prevent that.

 

[sojourner]

I just have to say it: The mind set that opposes the UN declaration is positively medieval, and seeks to objectify women. Period.
Shameful.

 

[InformedIgnorance]

First up #4 DOES NOT MAKE PROSTITUTION LEGAL; it says if prostitutes exist you dont get to do little things like stone them to death without a trial, spit on them as they walk down the street, rape them or so forth. It merely reinforces what should be an obvious point, they still have their rights as human beings, they may face trial for breaking the law - but they still have their rights.

Like Odion, I am far more critical of #8 For what reason should polygamy be made illegal? Why not have polygyny and polyandry in society provided it occurs between individuals giving their informed consent?

 

[sojourner]

First up #4 DOES NOT MAKE PROSTITUTION LEGAL; it says if prostitutes exist you dont get to do little things like stone them to death without a trial, spit on them as they walk down the street, rape them or so forth. It merely reinforces what should be an obvious point, they still have their rights as human beings, they may face trial for breaking the law - but they still have their rights.

Like Odion, I am far more critical of #8 For what reason should polygamy be made illegal? Why not have polygyny and polyandry in society provided it occurs between individuals giving their informed consent?

"Little" things? Since when are stoning, spitting, and rape "little" things?! Please tell me you're being sarcastic here!:cover:

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Well they are considered 'little things' (in societies that do need the obvious fact pointed out to them that prostitutes are humans even if they have committed a crime) which is why i phrased it as such.

 

[sojourner]

Well they are considered 'little things' (in societies that do need the obvious fact pointed out to them that prostitutes are humans even if they have committed a crime) which is why i phrased it as such.

I would suggest that they are considered "little things," because women, in those places, are considered "little things."

I wonder how these men would feel if some of the fine residents of our country's penal system did to them what they've been doing to their women? I bet they'd find all kinds of "religious tenets" to support reformation!

 

[MysticSang'ha]

For some societies, it's a very radical idea that women are human beings in their own right.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I would suggest that they are considered "little things," because women, in those places, are considered "little things."

I wonder how these men would feel if some of the fine residents of our country's penal system did to them what they've been doing to their women? I bet they'd find all kinds of "religious tenets" to support reformation!

I think this is a bit of a stretch. Most men I've personally known have healthy relationships with their wives, and it doesn't seem that they force them to do anything against their will.

Sure, they may be many coercive, controlling, and abusive men in certain societies, but many definitely aren't that way, so I don't think they should be labeled as such just because of others' mistakes.