Muslim Brotherhood Statement Denouncing UN Women Declaration for Violating Sharia Principles

[FearGod]

Why shouldn't this model be respected? Sure in front of those cameras she dresses like that and puts on a dull expression, but beyond the studio, she's almost certainly like any other person, man or woman.

Do you think sexual objectification of women is OK

 

[Debater Slayer]

I'M and my family's women "who are too well educated" SUPPORTING THEM to change this law as it'a against the women's protection.

let me tell you what happened during this trip, i return back to Cairo while my hometown "portsaid" was burning due to sever clashes between protesters and the interior after a court judged to execute 21 of my town, so our president declare the emergency in my town and ban the walk after 9 PM
and we reached Cairo on 11 PM, there were 10 women from port said
and so we wait in the air port to travel on 4 Am TO REACH portsaid after the ban is cleared, the bus car was from cairo and he was afraid to enter portsaid as he thought the ppl may attack the car cuz of it's cairo labelled, after negotiation i convinced him to enter
i was the only man with them, and then we travelled on the dawn, it's dark we are alone on the road, if me and the driver and his assistant were evil what would be the fate of those women, at least stealing, maybe worst rape them, maybe killed, you can say what you like to say, and after we reach safe they told me we will never travel alone without man, as simply if this driver think to rape them, i can say to him ok leave me secure and do what you want to do against them, but for sure i'll not do that and thanks to allah the driver was good

but really it's too risky, and the women reached they said we will never travel alone again,
this is why Islam prohibit for women to travel alone, it's not against the rights of women but it's to protect her

I think that a better measure would be to teach girls and young women how to defend themselves in cases like that. Not allowing them to travel alone tries to address an outcome rather than a cause.

And it seems to me that a person's gender mostly doesn't matter in such situations, as there have been many men who were assaulted and weren't able to defend themselves either (in Egypt, too).

Also, I have relatives who have traveled alone to several different countries for scholarships (and there were other with them who have done the same). From what they said about their experience, it was pretty beneficial for them. The situation you mentioned was apparently the result of extreme circumstances that aren't present in most other cases, so I don't see how it makes sense to use it as an example of why women shouldn't be able to travel on their own—at least not any more than it'd make sense to use it to argue that men shouldn't be allowed to travel on their own either.

 

[Gurtej]

This is nothing but an attempt to westernize Egypt. No muslim will give their childre contraceptives, nor allow abortion for women who just want to kill offspring.


Repect prostitutes? How? Like legalize it? Why should muslims allow that?

And muslim women arwnt forced to marry a man they dont want to.

No it's not a way to westernise Egypt but to bring some sense to people. Rules are there to give women some choices. In no way I am defending prostutution, however a women deserve to be respected even if she is a prostitue even though I disagree or strongly condemn the practice itself.

U have no idea what a prostitute face when it comes to backward countries, I say go to Middle East or even India or Pakistan ..

Women have access to contraceptives in west , does that mean parents give it to them?

 

[Gurtej]

Do you think sexual objectification of women is OK

Again u r missing the point.. She should be respected irrespective if the job or profession she has... Even If i don't agree to women wearing these type of clothes, that doesn't make her inferior to the rest if women..

 

[FearGod]

Again u r missing the point.. She should be respected irrespective if the job or profession she has... Even If i don't agree to women wearing these type of clothes, that doesn't make her inferior to the rest if women..

Aha,i now understand,thank God Gurtej

To be respected as human regardless of what he/she is doing.

Even though i disagree with the murderer or the rapist,but then i should respect him as human being.:yes: make sense.

Even though sexual objecification is a bad act but i should still respect the person doing it.

 

[F0uad]

Well to start off there are many countries that do not follow the UN women declaration so Egypt is not a exception.
Secondly Islam itself forbids certain things that are mentioned in the document.
Thirdly it seems to me that England my lionheart is on a mission to bash the Muslim Brotherhood but never took time to look at its own government.

I would advice anyone here to compare the abuse against woman's in the West with the East and then tell me if this Document really is worth it.

 

[crossfire]

Aha,i now understand,thank God Gurtej

To be respected as human regardless of what he/she is doing.

Even though i disagree with the murderer or the rapist,but then i should respect him as human being.:yes: make sense.

Even though sexual objecification is a bad act but i should still respect the person doing it.

I have a question. How is denying #5 NOT sexual objectification?

5. Giving wives full rights to file legal complaints against husbands accusing them of rape or sexual harassment, obliging competent authorities to deal husbands punishments similar to those prescribed for raping or sexually harassing a stranger.
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[Pegg]

The document appears to afford women the same rights and privileges that men enjoy. I can understand why some men would be against it...it means they would have to change their attitudes and behavior toward women.

In the end, the way men treat women behind closed doors wont change though. Even in the west where these standards are law, domestic violence is still very high. So unless men are willing to change their attitudes, laws such as these are pretty useless.

 

[Gurtej]

Aha,i now understand,thank God Gurtej

To be respected as human regardless of what he/she is doing.

Even though i disagree with the murderer or the rapist,but then i should respect him as human being.:yes: make sense.

Even though sexual objecification is a bad act but i should still respect the person doing it.

I can't believe u r using Rapist argument here....

I never said u Shud respect the profession but yes
Indeed respect the individual with respect..this is what differentiate us from previous traditions..

 

[F0uad]

I can't believe u r using Rapist argument here....

I never said u Shud respect the profession but yes
Indeed respect the individual with respect..this is what differentiate us from previous traditions..

I wont, will you respect that person if he raped your family members? Or your daughter?
I am pretty sure you are not brave enough to ask a rape victim to respect the person who raped her.

I certainly will not respect that person and i wont even tolerate the person.

 

[Looncall]

In my opinion its totally wrong to say equality between men and women, they are not equal in any thing, strength, mentality, emotions, duties, so then how to say they must be equal in rights
Its like socialism, working harder and lesser working should have the same vouchers regardless tgeir efforts or productivity
I believe in many fields women should have more rights than men, and in other fields men should have more but taking it as a bulk take it or leave it is really too far from the nature that we had created with

You have demonstrated clearly why muslim culture is so widely despised.

 

[Looncall]

Those kind of women that we should highly respect .:yes:

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You muslims sure are hung up about sexuality, aren't you? How pitiful.

If a woman wants to dress that way, who do you think you are to say otherwise?

 

[F0uad]

No need to generalize Looncall, i am not sure how i can respect that girl for wearing such clothing...

I can respect her for personality but not for walking naked...

 

[InformedIgnorance]

Provided that the EU declaration does not single out Muslim nations in particular then what is wrong with it? If they desire to be members of the EU then they surrender a (small) portion of their sovereignty, just like other members of the EU on the other hand for non members the EU has no right to impose anything - in such a case the declaration is little more than a statement of official position. If you want to be part of a club play by the rules.

 

[Gurtej]

Aha,i now understand,thank God Gurtej

To be respected as human regardless of what he/she is doing.

Even though i disagree with the murderer or the rapist,but then i should respect him as human being.:yes: make sense.

Even though sexual objecification is a bad act but i should still respect the person doing it.

I wont, will you respect that person if he raped your family members? Or your daughter?
I am pretty sure you are not brave enough to ask a rape victim to respect the person who raped her.


I certainly will not respect that person and i wont even tolerate the person.

OMG I just said y can't compare rapist to prostitutes .. But then why do I forget whom I am talking too..

Also ever realised how many girls are
Forced into prostitution by so called ethical
People.. Get a grip..don't treat her like animal...

 

[Gurtej]

No need to generalize Looncall, i am not sure how i can respect that girl for wearing such clothing...

I can respect her for personality but not for walking naked...

Why don't u stop bothering what she is wearing and focus in ur life...?
I mean come on.. Stop giving lectures...I don't agree to what she wears but it's not my concern ..

 

[Gurtej]

You have demonstrated clearly why muslim culture is so widely despised.

In their eyes .. They still have the best culture..lol

 

[Treks]

I'm interested to hear the opinion of Muslim women on this.

 

[Looncall]

No need to generalize Looncall, i am not sure how i can respect that girl for wearing such clothing...

I can respect her for personality but not for walking naked...

What business is it of yours how she (or any woman) dresses?

 

[Looncall]

In their eyes .. They still have the best culture..lol

i suppose that may be. At least for those fortunate enough to be male.