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Muslims: Keeping the wife "in line"

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TruthSpeaker

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Meow Mix said:
Suppose that someone believed they had a divine mandate to beat Muslims -- would you still think that just because they believe their god tells them to beat Muslims that you have no right to bash the idea of beating Muslims?
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what right to interfere in others right? we dont interfere when west people shoot porn movies and slap women in movies. You have no problem women beating in porn movies?

Meow Mix said:
I don't care if you believe Allah tells you that you can beat women. I can still call the idea of beating women barbaric, animalistic and evil. It doesn't mean I'm attacking you. I'm just disagreeing with a despicable concept (beating women).
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cant you understand the logic? muslim believe creator has right to do command what we should do, you can confirm it asking debatedslayer or ssainhu. We all are slaves of allah, what right we have to ask about right or wrong to creator?
 
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Vinayaka said:
So we should all respect any behaviour whatsoever? Murder? Beating of children? Germ Warfare? I think you just might want to clarify this statement.
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in our case our wife who believe almighty allah believe we have right to beat, when we and our wife have no problem with wife beating, why cant you respect us? clear?
 
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TruthSpeaker said:
in our case our wife who believe almighty allah believe we have right to beat, when we and our wife have no problem with wife beating, why cant you respect us? clear?
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Are you going to prove this or not? Because this Muslim wife would have a BIG problem if my husband beat me...and I KNOW for a FACT I'm in the majority.
 
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Meow Mix

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TruthSpeaker said:
what right to interfere in others right? we dont interfere when west people shoot porn movies and slap women in movies. You have no problem women beating in porn movies?
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It's not legal to slap someone who doesn't consent to being slapped (otherwise it's called assault). If someone gets hit in a movie (porn movie or not) they have agreed to it. If someone tries to coerce someone into "agreeing" to it against their will, they can sue them since that's still illegal.

TruthSpeaker said:
cant you understand the logic? muslim believe creator has right to do command what we should do, you can confirm it asking debatedslayer or ssainhu. We all are slaves of allah, what right we have to ask about right or wrong to creator?
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Well, this is a different subject. I wouldn't worship a god that made barbaric commandments because in my opinion such a thing is more likely to be a demon than a god if it commands me to hit people.

I'm just pointing out that people have every right to judge wife-beating, even if it's somehow religiously driven, because it's something that hurts a potentially innocent person. I'm sure you would say that Muslim-beating is barbaric even if there were some religion that believed their god told them to beat Muslims -- I bet you wouldn't say "come on guys, it's not our business to judge their beliefs" if they believed they should go around beating up Muslims. Am I right?

If someone believes it's OK to hurt people, it's the world's right to judge that belief as wicked and barbaric.
 
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ssainhu said:
Are you going to prove this or not? Because this Muslim wife would have a BIG problem if my husband beat me...and I KNOW for a FACT I'm in the majority.
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i said from beginning that i prove if you are serious. Serious means if proof is from convincing sources you should join me to support wife beating, are you serious ssainhu?
 
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Meow Mix

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TruthSpeaker said:
a mulsim is who obey allah's commands, a muslimah know husband has right to beat them. But beaten wrong reason she can complain to parents or scholars.
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It seems though that some Muslims, Muslimahs and scholars disagree that Allah commands men to beat their wives in those circumstances. It seems the answer isn't 100% clear to everybody.
 
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Meow Mix said:
It's not legal to slap someone who doesn't consent to being slapped (otherwise it's called assault). If someone gets hit in a movie (porn movie or not) they have agreed to it. If someone tries to coerce someone into "agreeing" to it against their will, they can sue them since that's still illegal.
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similarly a muslimah is always wlling to take beat from husband if there is a reason, because they obey allah. But beat for wrong reason she can complain.
 
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TruthSpeaker said:
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the reason is because a muslimah once cheated me after getting proof, i allow no more cheating.
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This is not a game of Liar's Dice. You told me that you're going to show proof. I'm not playing games and I'm not lying either. Is asking for a direct reply containing the "proof" you suggested too much?
 
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TruthSpeaker said:
i said in every post, let ssaihnu and her friends promise me they wont cheat.
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Oh for goodness sake, get a hold of yourself. If you have proof, this means they cannot deny what you say, so share it. Then the discussion will end in agreement. I for one have been one of those "friends" you speak of who deny that the Qur'an advocates violence against women. So prove it.
 
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