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Muslims, would this stop terrorist attacks from fundamentalists?

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
That's true, but getting ready to terrorize the enemy (e.g. rapists, murderers and invaders) is fine even in secular standards. It is just scaring them to get the element of standing in power against them when they do their deeds against us.

Also, why isn't it the other way around that the verses of peace copied the fighting verses?
Create force and terrorism
So are fighting the enemies of God
Can you brief us and explain to us who is the enemy of God ???
Federated States of fighting was revealed in Medina
It is known that cancellation or copies
It is next to the former
Federated States of Medina copied canceled states of Mecca
Phase time job in cancellation
Because it can not be canceled state did not come down
Federated States of Mecca landed in the first stage
It is Atnsch states Medina
Because subsequent eliminates the former
Do we remove our brains also, my friend ???
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Who is the enemy of God ???
are the God has enemies ???
Muslim fighting the enemies of God ???
What is the concept of God's enemies?
Wait for the answer
these question , does not refer to my answser lol

First enemy of God is Satan , God said "to Satan go..and we will meet at Judgement day"

Enemy of God whom edited His messages,and doing bad deeds to others (criminals)
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Create force and terrorism
So are fighting the enemies of God
Can you brief us and explain to us who is the enemy of God ???
Federated States of fighting was revealed in Medina
It is known that cancellation or copies
It is next to the former
Federated States of Medina copied canceled states of Mecca
Phase time job in cancellation
Because it can not be canceled state did not come down
Federated States of Mecca landed in the first stage
It is Atnsch states Medina
Because subsequent eliminates the former
Do we remove our brains also, my friend ???

Nope, brain removers haven't been invented yet :D

You tell me who are the enemy of God. If I tell you who, you will just not take it from me.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Koran is ruling you lol

how I contrary Quran ?
Quran is the rule among you
I am a Christian Read the verses of the Koran only
You are contrary to Islam, because you does not believe in terrorism, which commanded by God
There are enemies of God says to him on the ground should be fighting them
So why to trace the teachings of the Koran ????
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Quran is the rule among you
I am a Christian Read the verses of the Koran only
You are contrary to Islam, because you does not believe in terrorism, which commanded by God
There are enemies of God says to him on the ground should be fighting them
So why to trace the teachings of the Koran ????

What terrorism you are talking about that I don't believe in ?
do you mean the verse about "terror your enemy" , do ignore that it's talk about war ?
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Nope, brain removers haven't been invented yet :D

You tell me who are the enemy of God. If I tell you who, you will just not take it from me.
This is a verse in Arabic
وأعدوا لهم ما استطعتم من قوة ومن رباط الخيل ترهبون به عدو الله وعدوكم

وآخرين من دونهم لا تعلمونهم الله يعلمهم وما تنفقوا من شيء في سبيل الله يوف إليكم وأنتم لا تظلمون
),ترهبونthe enemy of Allah and your enemy Who is the enemy of God ??
Do you give us a definition to the term Holy Quran spoke honestly only ????

Because honesty is very important in the dialogue
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
What terrorism you are talking about that I don't believe in ?
do you mean the verse about "terror your enemy" , do ignore that it's talk about war ?
Declares war on the ???
The Koran says terrorism enemies of God
Who are the enemies of God ???
If you know the enemies of God will know the war declared by the type of Islam
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Declares war on the ???
The Koran says terrorism enemies of God
Who are the enemies of God ???
If you know the enemies of God will know the war declared by the type of Islam
Declare war against the attackers ,whom attack the Muslims ,thats what that verse said , I know that you know that .
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
That verse talking about war , when Muslims prepar to defend for them selfs. DURING THE WAR

it's not fair that you skip the next/previous verses , and quote out of general concept !!!

الَّذِينَ عَاهَدْتَ مِنْهُمْ ثُمَّ يَنْقُضُونَ عَهْدَهُمْ فِي كُلِّ مَرَّةٍ وَهُمْ لَا يَتَّقُونَ
8:56
The ones with whom you made a treaty but then they break their pledge every time, and they do not fear Allah .

فَإِمَّا تَثْقَفَنَّهُمْ فِي الْحَرْبِ فَشَرِّدْ بِهِم مَّنْ خَلْفَهُمْ لَعَلَّهُمْ يَذَّكَّرُونَ
8:57

So if you, [O Muhammad], gain dominance over them in war, disperse by [means of] them those behind them that perhaps they will be reminded.


وَإِن جَنَحُواْ لِلسَّلْمِ فَاجْنَحْ لَهَا وَتَوَكَّلْ عَلَى اللّهِ إِنَّهُ هُوَ السَّمِيعُ الْعَلِيمُ
8:61
And if they incline to peace, then incline to it [also] and rely upon Allah . Indeed, it is He who is the Hearing, the Knowing.
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member

I don't have to explain logic, you know. Regardless to who the enemy of God is, I told you already that the verse is about preparation of a fearsome power. You want the army to be cute or something that the enemy laugh at? Any army should have that fearsome feel so the enemy thinks twice of attacking. I see you're ignoring the following verse again.

Okay, I'll play along. The enemy of God is rapists and murderers. Now prove me wrong and you tell me who is the enemy of God.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
The word ترهبون means terrorism
That is very unlikely as the term "terrorists" wasn't around until the 18th century, and even today there is no real "one size fits all" definition of terrorists (serial killers especially tend to the blur and defy these definitions).
I am a Christian Read the verses of the Koran only
You are contrary to Islam, because you does not believe in terrorism, which commanded by God
So do you hate your family and your own life? Are you prepared to bring those who reject Christ to Christ so they can be slaughtered? Have you sold your possessions and gave the money to the poor? Does your church permit women to speak and ask questions? However, I am going to assume you haven't considered the beam in your eye.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
I don't have to explain logic, you know. Regardless to who the enemy of God is, I told you already that the verse is about preparation of a fearsome power. You want the army to be cute or something that the enemy laugh at? Any army should have that fearsome feel so the enemy thinks twice of attacking. I see you're ignoring the following verse again.

Okay, I'll play along. The enemy of God is rapists and murderers. Now prove me wrong and you tell me who is the enemy of God.
Islam says that all who do not follow the Prophet and who do not believe in God the enemies of God
Here is an opinion from the brave Muslim to leave Islam
Stories in the biography of the Prophet There are all different for murder and genocide and the slaughter of prisoners stories, or Jews of Bani Gereida Khyber example .. and you'll find out why that killing the enemy of God for Muslims, such as margarine and honey where what applies .. Emari
Fought Muhammad Quraish sons and uncles because they are the enemies of God
The Sunni-Shiite fighting because they are the enemies of God
Muslim enemy is the enemy of God
Jewish enemy of God, the enemy of God Christian Above the enemy of God
So Islam calls for war against these enemies
Do you think that this verse defensive ????
I am the enemy of God, because I do not believe in Muhammad
Mohammed said
God commanded me to fight the people until they say to God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of God
So create a military force to fight the enemies of God
I wish I could think of the term enemies of God
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Islam says that all who do not follow the Prophet and who do not believe in God the enemies of God
Here is an opinion from the brave Muslim to leave Islam
Stories in the biography of the Prophet There are all different for murder and genocide and the slaughter of prisoners stories, or Jews of Bani Gereida Khyber example .. and you'll find out why that killing the enemy of God for Muslims, such as margarine and honey where what applies .. Emari
Fought Muhammad Quraish sons and uncles because they are the enemies of God
The Sunni-Shiite fighting because they are the enemies of God
Muslim enemy is the enemy of God
Jewish enemy of God, the enemy of God Christian Above the enemy of God
So Islam calls for war against these enemies
Do you think that this verse defensive ????
I am the enemy of God, because I do not believe in Muhammad
Mohammed said
God commanded me to fight the people until they say to God but Allah and Muhammad is the Messenger of God
So create a military force to fight the enemies of God
I wish I could think of the term enemies of God

Understood.

Thank you for stating your view and opinion :)
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
That is very unlikely as the term "terrorists" wasn't around until the 18th century, and even today there is no real "one size fits all" definition of terrorists (serial killers especially tend to the blur and defy these definitions)
Yes, the world did not know the term terrorism
But after that the Islamic terrorist groups have emerged has spread this term
To search for source
We must well know the Koran
Because it is from the Koran terms
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Understood.

Thank you for stating your view and opinion
Is the man who does not believe in God does not believe in Muhammad
Is the enemy of God ???
So this verse does not call for self-defense
But it calls to offensive war
The enemies of God
The enemies of God and those who do not believe in Allah and His Messenger Muhammad ???
For this reason I say that terrorism is one of the assets of the Islamic intellectually
 

Smart_Guy

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Premium Member
Is the man who does not believe in God does not believe in Muhammad
Is the enemy of God ???
So this verse does not call for self-defense
But it calls to offensive war
The enemies of God
The enemies of God and those who do not believe in Allah and His Messenger Muhammad ???
For this reason I say that terrorism is one of the assets of the Islamic intellectually

Interesting...

Thank you for the commentary.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
So do you hate your family and your own life? Are you prepared to bring those who reject Christ to Christ so they can be slaughtered? Have you sold your possessions and gave the money to the poor? Does your church permit women to speak and ask questions? However, I am going to assume you haven't considered the beam in your eye.
My friend
I'm talking about the texts I do not speak for the actions
If you want to criticize the Christian texts written in Welcome hello type harshest criticisms about
But Support criticism of the text of the Gospel
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Interesting...

Thank you for the commentary.
It does not matter what type it
But the important thing is your attitude you because you have Muslim
Who is the enemy of God
??? Am I the enemy of God ???
Are you the enemy of God ??
It's a very flexible term
You can kill your neighbor also
???
It's a problem of Islam intellectually
 
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