My views on homosexuality

[Otherright]

Two questions:

1. Can a man have sex with another man and make a baby?
2. Can a woman have sex with another woman and make a baby?

When both these questions can be answered with the response, “Yes” -- then we can talk about homosexuality being “natural”.

A man’s body is made to connect to a female’s body and the reverse. It’s like a prong and an outlet. They obviously go together.

Funny you should mention that. Do you know what parthenogenesis is? Because females can produce their own sperm. It always ends up being female because of the lack of male DNA, but it happens. Just not in humans. Well... outside of labs anyway. The next step is obvious. Inseminate a female with another female's sperm. That will be a political issue in the 2064 election.

 

[Father Heathen]

Two men having sex or two women having sex will not make a baby, period.

Seems like a perk to me. But homosexuality also occurs in animals in the wild, thus it is indeed "natural".

 

[Otherright]

So, I take it you don't engage in oral sex, or kissing?

Sic him Storm.

 

[thebigpicture]

Funny you should mention that. Do you know what parthenogenesis is? Because females can produce their own sperm. It always ends up being female because of the lack of male DNA, but it happens. Just not in humans. Well... outside of labs anyway. The next step is obvious. Inseminate a female with another female's sperm. That will be a political issue in the 2064 election.

I'm not saying that you're saying we are but...We are not animals. What goes for animals does not go for us. We are human beings. Therefore, again:

1. Can a man have sex with another man and make a baby?
2. Can a woman have sex with another woman and make a baby?

When both these questions can be answered with the response, “Yes” -- then we can talk about homosexuality being “natural”. Until then...

 

[Storm]

I'm not saying that you're saying we are but...We are not animals. What goes for animals does not go for us. We are human beings. Therefore, again:

1. Can a man have sex with another man and make a baby?
2. Can a woman have sex with another woman and make a baby?

When both these questions can be answered with the response, “Yes” -- then we can talk about homosexuality being “natural”. Until then...

So, you don't kiss. Right?

 

[thebigpicture]

Seems like a perk to me. But homosexuality also occurs in animals in the wild, thus it is indeed "natural".

Cannibalism and incest also occurs in the animal kingdom. Should we follow suit on that as well. Again...we are not animals. We are human beings.

 

[thebigpicture]

So, you don't kiss. Right?

Sorry, I don't get it. What's the point you're making?

 

[Otherright]

I'm not saying that you're saying we are but...We are not animals. What goes for animals does not go for us. We are human beings. Therefore, again:

1. Can a man have sex with another man and make a baby?
2. Can a woman have sex with another woman and make a baby?

When both these questions can be answered with the response, “Yes” -- then we can talk about homosexuality being “natural”. Until then...

No, they can't. Does that make it wrong? Is your assumption that sex only functions as a means to reproduce a race?

 

[Father Heathen]

I'm not saying that you're saying we are but...We are not animals.

So then are we either vegetable or mineral?

What goes for animals does not go for us. We are human beings. Therefore, again:

1. Can a man have sex with another man and make a baby?
2. Can a woman have sex with another woman and make a baby?

No, but how is it relevant?

When both these questions can be answered with the response, “Yes” -- then we can talk about homosexuality being “natural”. Until then...

Perhaps if you could explain why breeding is a prerequisite for being natural?

 

[thebigpicture]

No, they can't. Does that make it wrong? Is your assumption that sex only functions as a means to reproduce a race?

Yes, it's wrong. And no, I don't feel that sex only functions as a means to reproduce. But, it certainly takes both a man and a woman to do so.

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

If breeding is all that matters, you have to look down your nose at infertile people, too.

Not that bigots much care about being consistent.

:clap:

 

[Father Heathen]

Cannibalism and incest also occurs in the animal kingdom. Should we follow suit on that as well. Again...we are not animals. We are human beings.

I thought your argument was whether or not it was natural.

 

[Otherright]

Yes, it's wrong. And no, I don't feel that sex only functions as a means to reproduce. But, it certainly takes both a man and a woman to do so.

Then what makes it wrong, in your opinion? If you feel that the function of sex isn't only reproduction, what makes homosexuality wrong, in your eyes?

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

I thought your argument was whether or not it was natural.

They often shift the goalposts. Besides, like homosexuality is compairable to devouring another human being for substainence right?

 

[Many Sages One Truth]

Cannibalism and incest also occurs in the animal kingdom. Should we follow suit on that as well. Again...we are not animals. We are human beings.

Homosexuality is compariable to cannibalism?

 

[thebigpicture]

I thought your argument was whether or not it was natural.

Okay and...

I made a point about what you'd written. You wrote that homosexuality was natural because it happens in the animal kingdom. So I responded...

 

[Otherright]

They often shift the goalposts. Besides, like homosexuality is compairable to devouring another human being for substainence right?

ROFL. That's is great. That is by far the best comeback I've heard all day.

 

[Otherright]

Okay and...

I made a point about what you'd written. You wrote that homosexuality was natural because it happens in the animal kingdom. So I responded...

But you didn't respond to mine.

If you feel that the function of sex isn't only reproduction, what makes homosexuality wrong, in your eyes?

I'm interested in knowing this.

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes, it's wrong. And no, I don't feel that sex only functions as a means to reproduce. But, it certainly takes both a man and a woman to do so.

Glasses, clothes and technology are also unnatural. Are they wrong? What about sex using contraceptives? Is that wrong? What if people don't want babies, anyway? Humans aren't an insect colony after all and the world is already overpopulated as it is anyway. What makes homosexuality "wrong"? What harm is done by what consenting adults do in the privacy of their own bedrooms? Absolutely none. I suspect your objection stems from the ancient superstitions of primitive goat herders.

 

[thebigpicture]

Then what makes it wrong, in your opinion? If you feel that the function of sex isn't only reproduction, what makes homosexuality wrong, in your eyes?

The same thing that makes incest wrong. The same thing that makes bestiality wrong.

They often shift the goalposts. Besides, like homosexuality is compairable to devouring another human being for substainence right?

There is no shifting goalposts here. I made a point. Did not waiver. So that little accusation...not cutting it.

Homosexuality is compariable to cannibalism?

It's comparable in the fact that they are both wrong.