Your beliefs are not relevant to the fact that any of the possibilities listed means that your claim that you have nothing to lose if your belief is false and they are true instead.
Ok yes, I would indeed stand to lose much IF any of your hypothetical scenarios proved to be correct.
How is that relevant? You claimed that if Darwin knew how complex a cell was, that "he would have been opening his Bible and asking for forgiveness." I told you that the evidence around you contradicted you. The existence of religious scientists does not negate the fact that there are millions if not billions of people more aware of the structure and function of the cell and its constituents that Darwin who have not become religious for that knowledge.
I guess sarcasm is lost through the internet. Darwin was trying to understand the natural world, and likely didn't believe the creation story of the Bible, which is perfectly understandable. Sun appearing on day 3 etc. Had he been a believer of conviction and known about the unbelievable complexity of protein sequences and DNA structure, he would I'm, sure, have praised GOD.
Now coming to your claim that Millions if not Billions understand the mind blowing complexities of the Cell, yet haven't turned to any religion. In case you hadn't noticed the Earth's current population is approx 7.3 Billion people and only 1 Billion class themselves as atheist, secular, agnostic, non religious. Of those 1 Billion, I have no idea how many know the structure of a living cell. Theists need to do more to spread the message, Science points to a Higher Power
I don't know how to say it any more clearly: Positing a god because you think that a cell is too complex to exist undesigned and uncreated is a logical error. A god would be about the most complex entity imaginable. Now you need to explain how it can exist undesigned and uncreated.
Who says everything designed has to have a creator? The rules of the universe we live by of course. So where does that place God? Outside of time an space of course, somewhere He is not constrained by the Laws that govern His Creation.
Balance? How is that relevant? You made a claim that "Refraining from Alcohol protects the Heart and Liver." I showed you that it could be cardioprotective.
Did I say alcohol should only be avoided to protect the Heart and liver? No. The Qur'an actually says;
They ask you about wine and gambling. Say, "In them is great sin and [yet, some] benefit for people. But their sin is greater than their benefit." And they ask you what they should spend. Say, "The excess [beyond needs]." Thus Allah makes clear to you the verses [of revelation] that you might give thought. Qur'an 2:219
Does the small benefit
outweigh the harm? NO
Can we use other foods, vitamins to sustain a healthy heart and liver? YES
I would rather the $6 Billion a year went towards Schools, Hospitals, Police Force, Infrastructure than spent unnecessarily on people who can't stop at one glass of red.
What difference does that make? You said that prayer was good for the body and mind. I showed you how it could be harmful.
I didn't say all prayer was beneficial. I'm a Muslim so obviously referring to the Islamic prayer, though I'm sure studies will show meditation and prayers that Hindus use is also good for the mind and body. There are other faiths/ways of life that swear by their prayer method to work just as well. Your links didn't mention what faith group was studied? If it involved praying to a Jewish man or some lifeless idol, then it's unlikely to benefit anyone.
Still, we don't need commandments to be charitable.
Correct you don't, but they do help as I have shown, they help a lot in fact
You'll have to do that yourself. I don't have any interest in his answer. My answer is that life has no known purpose.
The spokesperson for your Church says, Humans have a specific purpose, which I'll come to after this post.
I thought you were showing me verses that you thought demonstrated superhuman prescience. I already know why you accept those verses
Those verses prove 7th Century Nomadic Arabs could never have fathomed the secrets of the Cosmos. The verses clearly come from God, the Creator of the Heavens and Earths and all creation scattered throughout the Cosmos.
That does not change the fact that you tacitly implied that science is the arbiter of truth in the arena of the physical.
Science changes with new discoveries, and accepted facts get turned on their heads decades later. Science is hardly the arbitrator of facts, much less truth. It has a useful but limited purpose.
If I was discussing Religion with a Atheist Arabic speaker, I wouldn't use science, rather I would only have to use the first Chapter of the Qur'an and would be able to adequately show the superiority of the Quranic Arabic mean it must have come from a higher source.
I have never been accused of lacking confidence before.
You seem to be getting angry or frustrated. I understand.
Not at all, in fact on the contrary, I haven't engaged with Atheists for years, preferring instead to debate Christians,and have been very pleasantly surprised by Atheists on this thread. Despite the advances made by Atheists Scientists, people who believe in God can still stop Atheists dead in their tracks using a single cell
something it didn't do with a lot of others: they got it. But don't like my "this is what" answer? so be it. Perhaps in the future you shouldn't be asking people "So what" questions.
