No to Fake Meat

[We Never Know]

Despite the fact that its production cost dropped to ONE THIRTY-THOUSANDTH of its cost less than 10 years ago? You don't see its cost becoming lower as a possibility, even though that's clearly happening? Coupled with the fact that it is also better for the environment, takes less labour and uses less resources?


Why not? What's your actual objection?

I like butchered hamburger. Made from one cow. Store meat has meat from many different cows(and/or?) all mixed together plus all kinds of additives.

There is a difference

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I like butchered hamburger. Made from one cow. Store meat has meat from many different cows(and/or?) all mixed together plus all kinds of additives.

There is a difference

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What difference does that make? If the meat is cultured, it would all be the same as well. What if you could buy meat of a similar - or even better - quality, at the same - or even better - price, that was produced in a way that was far more efficient, environmentally friendly and used less resources, land and time?

Why not at least be open to that possibility, even if it's remote?

 

[We Never Know]

What difference does that make? If the meat is cultured, it would all be the same as well. What if you could buy meat of a similar - or even better - quality, at the same - or even better - price, that was produced in a way that was far more efficient, environmentally friendly and used less resources, land and time?

Why not at least be open to that possibility, even if it's remote?

Then you eat.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Then you eat.

Why not you? If it could be better, cheaper and more easily produced?

What's your REAL objection?

 

[We Never Know]

What difference does that make? If the meat is cultured, it would all be the same as well. What if you could buy meat of a similar - or even better - quality, at the same - or even better - price, that was produced in a way that was far more efficient, environmentally friendly and used less resources, land and time?

Why not at least be open to that possibility, even if it's remote?

Its like you are asking a gardener to quit gardening and buy his veggies from a lab instead.

 

[We Never Know]

Why not you? If it could be better, cheaper and more easily produced?

What's your REAL objection?

I already answered you. Repeating your question will get you the same answer.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Its like you are asking a gardener to quit gardening and buy his veggies from a lab instead.

No, I'm just asking what your objection would be to lab grown meat if it's better, cheaper, more efficient and better for the environment. I can understand the benefits of home-grown vegetables, but I doubt you literally rear you own cattle. You literally told me you get your meat from a butcher.

So, why not?

 

[We Never Know]

No, I'm just asking what your objection would be to lab grown meat if it's better, cheaper, more efficient and better for the environment. I can understand the benefits of home-grown vegetables, but I doubt you literally rear you own cattle. You literally told me you get your meat from a butcher.

So, why not?

Yes I have cattle. Yes I have them butchered. So your doubt is wrong. Move along.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

I already answered you.

No, you haven't. You keep saying what kind of meat you prefer, but cultured meat could still produce the kind of meat you like - or even better, for a potentially better price.

So, what's the objection? If cultured meat, hypothetically, could produce the same (or better) quality of meat, produce more of it for a smaller price, and be better for the environment, why wouldn't you buy it rather than farm grown meat?

 

[Ignatius A]

Because you genuinely don't seem to understand that not everyone can or wants to eat meat or cheese. Is this really a new idea to you? If it genuinely is, you must lead and incredibly sheltered and insular life.


Did I say you shouldn't, or did I just say your questions were weird?

It's not like I didn't answer them. At least I respected them that much.


What on earth does that have to do with lab grown meat? I have no idea about Californian legislature in the year 2035.

This thread is about lab-grown meat

That has absolutely nothing to do with lab grown meat. You get a C-formttmeot at

Because you genuinely don't seem to understand that not everyone can or wants to eat meat or cheese. Is this really a new idea to you? If it genuinely is, you must lead and incredibly sheltered and insular life.


Did I say you shouldn't, or did I just say your questions were weird?

It's not like I didn't answer them. At least I respected them that much.


What on earth does that have to do with lab grown meat? I have no idea about Californian legislature in the year 2035.

This thread is about lab-grown meat.

I understand too well but that silliness has nothing to do with why lab grown meat.

I know you don't get it.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Yes I have cattle. Yes I have them butchered. So your doubt is wrong. Move along.

Aha, so it's just pure self-interest.

No worries. You can continue farming and rearing your cattle, if you want. But at some point it's no shame to admit when science has outpaced you and could potentially provide a better product at a lower cost. That's just called progress.

 

[Ignatius A]

I've already answered that question. Lab grown meat could potentially use significantly less labour, time and resources to produce.

Are you against the idea of technology improving processes?

"Why do we need tele-porters when we already have cars?"
"Why do we need cars when we already have horses?"
"Why do we need horses when we already have feet?"
"Why do we need feet when we can just stay in our caves?"


So what if lab-grown meat became less expensive, and took less labour, less resources and less time to produce? Would you be in favour of it then?


You seriously see no benefit whatsoever in producing meat faster, easier, less wastefully and (potentially) cheaper?

It's not faster and its not cheaper. It's amazing how short sighted people are. Few cant see past their noses.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

That has absolutely nothing to do with lab grown meat.

So why did you bring it up in a discussion about lab grown meat?

 

[Ignatius A]

Well, we can't always get what we want. Let it go.

I completely understand why you want to.

 

[We Never Know]

Aha, so it's just pure self-interest.

No worries. You can continue farming and rearing your cattle, if you want. But at some point it's no shame to admit when science has outpaced you and could potentially provide a better product at a lower cost. That's just called progress.

Like I said... Then you eat it

 

[ImmortalFlame]

It's not faster and its not cheaper.

But it potentially COULD BE. That's the point.

It's amazing how short sighted people are. Few cant see past their noses.

... Says the person who opposes the idea of lab grown meat because it is CURRENTLY too expensive, despite the fact that advances in the field have reduced its production cost to ONE THIRTY-THOUSANDTH of its production cost in less than a decade.

Yep, I'm the short-sighted one.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Like I said... Then you eat it

Why not you? That's what I'm asking. If it's just because your livelihood depends on rearing cattle, that's a perfectly acceptable answer. You could have just said that instead of pretending that it is was about cost.

 

[We Never Know]

Why not you? That's what I'm asking. If it's just because your livelihood depends on rearing cattle, that's a perfectly acceptable answer. You could have just said that instead of pretending that it is was about cost.

Lmao! You have been answered. We are done beating this horse. You are excused.
You're like a scratched record.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Lmao! You have been answered.

Not really. You keep changing your answer. First it was because it was too expensive, but then you said you wouldn't eat it even if it was cheaper. Then you said you wouldn't eat it because you prefer your meat to all come from a single cow rather than a blend, and I explained that cultured meat could still produce that quality of meat. Then finally you said you reared cattle, but stopped short of answering why this necessarily meant you wouldn't want to eat cultured meat.

Is it because you see cultured meat as a threat to your livelihood or not?

We are done beating this horse. You are excused.
You're like a scratched record.

Says the "you eat it, then" guy.

Why not just give a straight answer to a question when asked? Why are you so scared of cultured meat?

 

[SkepticThinker]

That has absolutely nothing to do with lab grown meat. You get a C-formttmeot at

I understand too well but that silliness has nothing to do with why lab grown meat.

I know you don't get it.

I'm going to give this post an F- for handwaving and failing address anything in the post you were responding to. Again.