Not a Terrorist Insurrection

[Shadow Wolf]

Republicans want a theocracy run
by a Christian caliphate.
Time to consider what really is....not pretend the extremes.

Among them that are Evangelicals that's not pretending. Lots of them do want exactly that. As a part of their theology, ultimately they all want it with Christ's thousand year reign, and many vote with the intention of bringing it (along with that "cleansing fire" and Armageddon thing). And at that point there is hardly any difference between that and Che Guevara wanting global nuclear war to build a "Communist Utopia" from the ashes.
And it's not just me saying this accounting for my own past experience with this madness. When his supporters mentioned the Embassy being moved to Jerusalem as fulfilling prophecy, that is this desire for a Christian Caliphate showing because the prophecy they speak of is their belief of the End Times.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I wish I could remember who here tried to tell me that people don't still bring up Hillary apropos of nothing.

I figure it would make an interesting chain gang in the making.

 

[Twilight Hue]

If she's actually guilty of anything, sure.

This "...but, but, but Hillary!" and "...but, but, but the dems!" everytime the right gets its nose rubed in its own **** gets old.

Oh I'm sure more names will eventually up here and there.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Attempt to downplay it all you want, they're still traitorous trash.

Depends on who is seen as a traitor. Some think its a patriotic duty to remove traitors who have seized power and need to be forcefully removed from seats of office to preserve the nation.

It's an extreme thought granted, but it's the view that some carry with them.

 

[Twilight Hue]

So when a bratty child breaks a lamp because they didn't get their way, whoever didn't give them what they wanted is at fault?

I see it more as an abused child who had a light at the beginning only to have it abruptly taken away and smashed by the instigator, and an attempt is made to re aquire what was stolen and destroyed and repair the damage caused in order to set thing as they were before.

 

[Twilight Hue]

It was a domestic threat. If you don't like the word terrorist, fine. These trump supporters were a domestic threat. Many seem to still pose a threat to the USA in various ways.

I don't even like insurrection either, but I find it far more accurate at any rate, good enough where I can accept it as an act of insurrection. I think its a better descriptor overall.

Either way, I think all can say we have a huge problem in this country and it takes two to tango here. The polarity is just too strong atm for any kind of a pow wow to occur.

 

[Father Heathen]

Depends on who is seen as a traitor. Some think its a patriotic duty to remove traitors who have seized power and need to be forcefully removed from seats of office to preserve the nation.

It's an extreme thought granted, but it's the view that some carry with them.

Some people "think" without logic or evidence and act upon it in irrational, irresponsible ways. These people are slack jawed imbeciles.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Some people "think" without logic or evidence and act upon it in irrational, irresponsible ways. These people are slack jawed imbeciles.

I probably wouldn't go that far as I feel there are legitimate reasons for doing such things in theory, but I'll agree that action based on emotions alone is irrational and irresponsible, and a highly stupid premise for going out like a raging bull in a China plate factory.

 

[Father Heathen]

I see it more as an abused child who had a light at the beginning only to have it abruptly taken away and smashed by the instigator, and an attempt is made to re aquire what was stolen and destroyed and repair the damage caused in order to set thing as they were before.

How dare the American people extinguish your disastrous dumpster fire. So many conservatives bellow loudly about their love for freedom and democracy, yet wouldn't hesitate to impede either when things don't go their way. It's fake B.S. patriotism devoid of any real values. These are the same people who say "love it or leave it", so my question is do you need help packing?

 

[Twilight Hue]

How dare the American people extinguish your disastrous dumpster fire. So many conservatives bellow loudly about their love freedom and democracy, yet wouldn't don't hesitate to impede either when things don't go their way. It's fake B.S. patriotism devoid of any real values. These are the same people who say "love it or leave it", so my question is do you need help packing?

Try looking at the loss of freedom in this country.
Both are responsible, there's enough evidence for all around blame, but it's the Democrats who are the worst offenders and have aggressively taken to rule by mandate as opposed to rule of law.

Banning without foresight and thought of consequences, instituting restrictive measures levied out with impudence and disregard for the Constitution and compromising way of life that had been once enjoyed by our predecessors in the past who enjoyed a multitude of freedoms that no longer exist anymore.

It's not hard to see the reason for anger.

 

[Father Heathen]

Try looking at the loss of freedom in this country.
Both are responsible, there's enough evidence for all around blame, but it's the Democrats who are the worst offenders and have aggressively taken to rule by mandate as opposed to rule of law.

Banning without foresight and thought of consequences, instituting restrictive measures levied out with impudence and disregard for the Constitution and compromising way of life that had been once enjoyed by our predecessors in the past who enjoyed a multitude of freedoms that no longer exist anymore.

It's not hard to see the reason for anger.

What freedoms have liberals taken away?

 

[We Never Know]

When anyone can show me the people are doing at least as good as the politicians that serve them, I will quit blaming both party's for the problems in America.

 

[Revoltingest]

I know what you are conveying......but what democrat here does not respect John Mc Cain? I believe being a Republican is to be someone's privilege and I know a true democrat would agree.

I don't understand your post.
As for John McCain, I found him not all bad,
but also non-libertarian.
- Very pro-war (Afghanistan, Iraq, Iran).
- He was a Zionist.
- Favored Trump's ending the nuclear deal with Iran.
- Campaign finance reform that didn't accomplish anything
other than increasing its complexity, & ensnaring people in
unintended violations.
- Curbing civil liberties in The War On Terror & The Patriot Act.
- Opposed abortion rights.
- Favored affirmative action, ie, active discrimination
based upon gender & race.
- Favored the military draft (but later reversing this view).
- Opposed gay marriage.
- In the autism-caused-by-vaccines camp.

Iran's desire for nuclear weapons is easily in part
attributable to politicians like McCain.

 

[Wandering Monk]

It's definitely a bad thing, IMO. In fact, I left the Republican Party and registered as a Democrat because of it. I voted for Biden in the 2020 presidential election, and he's the first Democratic candidate that I've ever voted for in any election since I registered to vote as a Republican in 1992. He won't be the last Democrat I vote for, either, as long as Trump has control of the Republican Party. I'll vote Democratic in the upcoming midterms and in the 2024 presidential election, as long as Trump controls the Republican Party.

My story exactly, except I had been voting Republican straight down the ballot since 1976. Not again until Republicans purge their party of MAGA and move to the center.

 

[Twilight Hue]

What freedoms have liberals taken away?

Looking at the nanny state mentality most are quality of life isssues... 2nd ammendment rights under threat, freedom of speech being criminalized, creation and enforcement of free speech zones, putting little kids in handcuffs, weaponized health and safety measures that have detrimental effects, .. I could go on and on.

 

[Wandering Monk]

Is there a reason for that? Are we not, after all, a social species that needs to find some means of succeeding together? That is, in my view, a big part of party politics, and of course libertarians (small "l") aren't "party" at all.

@Revoltingest I do get where you're coming from -- I really do. I've tried to tell you about my politics, which is all confused -- liberal about how people should live their lives, a capitalist because that's where wealth is built, but concerned that even capitalism (like all human activities) can't be totally unfettered, that we need rules. It's messy, I agree. But as a "Libertarian," you ought to be prepared for that.

You might have liked Teddy Roosevelt.

 

[Revoltingest]

Among them that are Evangelicals that's not pretending.

Some do. But it's wrong to characterize all
conservatives by that extreme. That's my point.
We should be fair & open minded towards our
political foes.

 

[Revoltingest]

Some people "think" without logic or evidence and act upon it in irrational, irresponsible ways. These people are slack jawed imbeciles.

I was alerted to this post.
Was it my slack jaw?
(It happens when I doze off.)

 

[anna.]

My story exactly, except I had been voting Republican straight down the ballot since 1976. Not again until Republicans purge their party of MAGA and move to the center.

@Sgt. Pepper and I discovered our similar political paths recently, so that makes three of us.

We should start a club. : )

I voted straight R ballot since my first election, so 1980-2012. Didn't vote for a president in 2012 then voted Democratic for the first time in 2016, continued into 2020 of course, and haven't looked back.

 

[Sgt. Pepper]

My story exactly, except I had been voting Republican straight down the ballot since 1976. Not again until Republicans purge their party of MAGA and move to the center.

@Sgt. Pepper and I discovered our similar political paths recently, so that makes three of us.

We should start a club. : )

I voted straight R ballot since my first election, so 1980-2012. Didn't vote for a president in 2012 then voted Democratic for the first time in 2016, continued into 2020 of course, and haven't looked back.

It's an honor to meet other former Republicans who also took a bold political stand against Trump. I'm done with the Republican Party until it's purged of Trump and his sycophantic followers. As far as I'm concerned, Trumpism is an anathema that has to be thoroughly eradicated from the Republican Party before I'll consider voting Republican again. I'll vote Democratic until then.