Officer Barney Fife mistakes gun for a tazer in shooting a black man. Biden calls for peace.

[We Never Know]

yes, misdemeanor warrants

It doesn't matter if he just killed a hundred people with a penknife, the use of force was not justified if he wasn't (and he wasn't) an immediate threat to officers.

Misdemeanor warrants and attempting to flee doesn't justify the escalation and use of deadly force. The system is at fault, and another person is denied due process and is now dead, because the system is set up to have 'accidents' like this on a regular basis.

Warrants were gross misdemeanor carrying a pistol without a permit and misdemeanor fleeing police.
https://bringmethenews-com.cdn.ampp...ng-of-daunte-wright-heres-what-we-know-so-far

I actually believe the officer made a fatal error and confused her taser with her gun.
With her being a senior officer one would think it shouldn't happen but it does. In the post I posted earlier, she should have had her taser on the opposite side of her gun.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Except it is clear that the officer did not mean to shoot him. She thought that she had drawn her taser. You can hear her shout "taser, taser, taser!" before the shot and then an immediate "Oh ****!" afterwards. A taser would be an appropriate use of force for the situation. Using a gun obviously is not.

I disagree. They had escalated the situation as it was, and the result was an "accidental" death of an unarmed civilian. Manslaughter at the very least, if not unintentional murder.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Except it is clear that the officer did not mean to shoot him. She thought that she had drawn her taser. You can hear her shout "taser, taser, taser!" before the shot and then an immediate "Oh ****!" afterwards. A taser would be an appropriate use of force for the situation. Using a gun obviously is not.

So she says. I disagree that the situation needed a taser. Yes, the individual made the wrong decision. But the police as supposed to try to calm the situation; instead, they escalated it, and the "accidental" or "unintentional" shooting resulted.

 

[We Never Know]

Except it is clear that the officer did not mean to shoot him. She thought that she had drawn her taser. You can hear her shout "taser, taser, taser!" before the shot and then an immediate "Oh ****!" afterwards. A taser would be an appropriate use of force for the situation. Using a gun obviously is not.

She was shouting taser taser taser to let the other officer know it was coming so he would step out of the way and not get tased himself.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Warrants were gross misdemeanor carrying a pistol without a permit and misdemeanor fleeing police.
https://bringmethenews-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/bringmethenews.com/.amp/minnesota-news/police-killing-of-daunte-wright-heres-what-we-know-so-far?amp_js_v=a6&amp_gsa=1&usqp=mq331AQHKAFQArABIA==#aoh=16182824217447&referrer=https://www.google.com&amp_tf=From %1$s&ampshare=https://bringmethenews.com/minnesota-news/police-killing-of-daunte-wright-heres-what-we-know-so-far

I actually believe the officer made a fatal error and confused her taser with her gun.
With her being a senior officer one would think it shouldn't happen but it does. In the post I posted earlier, she should have had her taser on the opposite side of her gun.

I certainly agree. But there was nothing in the situation exept "a black man is getting away" that needed any escalation. They failed to calm the situation, they escalated the situation, and then killed someone because they weren't well enough trained to not know the difference between drawing your service gun and a taser. Police are supposed to keep a level head...she was obviously excited...and not doing her duty to protect and serve.

 

[We Never Know]

I certainly agree. But there was nothing in the situation exept "a black man is getting away" that needed any escalation. They failed to calm the situation, they escalated the situation, and then killed someone because they weren't well enough trained to not know the difference between drawing your service gun and a taser. Police are supposed to keep a level head...she was obviously excited...and not doing her duty to protect and serve.

This guy, an ex-con, explains it better than I could.

WARNING!!
The guy drops the F-bomb several times so if that is offense to anyone, don't play it.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

This guy explains it better than I could.

WARNING!!
The guy drops the F-bomb several times so if that is offense to anyone, don't play it.

can you give a three-sentence summary, please. I have limited gigs of data available, and try to avoid videos if I can. Thank you

 

[We Never Know]

can you give a three-sentence summary, please. I have limited gigs of data available, and try to avoid videos if I can. Thank you

In short he says he has been arrested a lot, been to prison, etc. He says he has never been shot, never been tased, never tackled, etc.
He says if a cop says stop, he stopped. If a cop said show me your hands, he showed them his hands. He never fought with the police or ran because that's fleeing/resisting arrests.

 

[Subduction Zone]

I disagree. They had escalated the situation as it was, and the result was an "accidental" death of an unarmed civilian. Manslaughter at the very least, if not unintentional murder.

No, there was no "escalation. I watched the video. Where do you get such a crazy claim? The police were quite calm in their arrest. If anything the victim escalated the sitatuion.

 

[Subduction Zone]

She was shouting taser taser taser to let the other officer know it was coming so he would step out of the way and not get tased himself.

I know. it is standard operating procedure when a taser is used.

One uses a taser when it is a less than life threatening situation. Guns are only used in extreme situations. I agree with your prior post that it was likely an error.

 

[Twilight Hue]

She was shouting taser taser taser to let the other officer know it was coming so he would step out of the way and not get tased himself.

It's highly suspicious a veteran officer with over 20 years of experience wouldn't be able to tell the difference between the two by then.

It comes across the same as officers yelling, "Stop resisting"! when their perp was never resisting.

 

[Twilight Hue]

No, there was no "escalation. I watched the video. Where do you get such a crazy claim? The police were quite calm in their arrest. If anything the victim escalated the sitatuion.

There is some credibility that the whole thing could have been avoided if he just complied with orders in the first place.

 

[Revoltingest]

In short he says he has been arrested a lot, been to prison, etc. He says he has never been shot, never been tased, never tackled, etc.
He says if a cop says stop, he stopped. If a cop said show me your hands, he showed them his hands. He never fought with the police or ran because that's fleeing/resisting arrests.

It's time for this useful PSA to be aired again.
Caution:
Some profanity.

 

[Thief]

yes, misdemeanor warrants

It doesn't matter if he just killed a hundred people with a penknife, the use of force was not justified if he wasn't (and he wasn't) an immediate threat to officers.

Misdemeanor warrants and attempting to flee doesn't justify the escalation and use of deadly force. The system is at fault, and another person is denied due process and is now dead, because the system is set up to have 'accidents' like this on a regular basis.

ahem....he was told....
don't run

yes of course.....the mistake of handgun is glaring
when the taser was thought to have been.....in hand

but not all police carry tasers
and is it not customary to shoot someone fleeing the law?

 

[Subduction Zone]

ahem....he was told....
don't run

yes of course.....the mistake of handgun is glaring
when the taser was thought to have been.....in hand

but not all police carry tasers
and is it not customary to shoot someone fleeing the law?

No,shooting someone fleeing the law is very very rare!y an excuse to shoot someone. There must be an immediate threat to others. That was clearly not the case in this incident.

 

[Thief]

No,shooting someone fleeing the law is very very rare!y an excuse to shoot someone. There must be an immediate threat to others. That was clearly not the case in this incident.

I have just been scanning US supreme court rulings

it seems the practice of stopping a fleeing suspect has been......tethered

so......we may all well expect...
the burglar that just ran out from your house.....is free to go

yes he is

 

[Left Coast]

Wish it was funny like the title, but no doubt the police are still killing with impunity.


Biden calls for peaceful protests after police shooting of Daunte Wright

This is so bizarre that an officer can't tell the difference between a tazer and a gun?

I just watched the body cam footage for the first time. Seems pretty clear to me that she was trying to taze him. Right after she shot him the officer said, "holy **** I just shot him."

As much as I hate to see yet another police killing of a black person, this is not a Derek Chauvin situation.

 

[McBell]

I have no idea what he might have done under other circumstances, and hypotheticals are irrelevant. I'm saying that a system that regularly has results such as this has problems.

How often would you consider "regularly"?
And what numbers are you using to make the declaration that this is a "regular" occurrence?
And what exactly are you saying is a "regular" occurrence, the outstanding warrant, the attempted arrest on an outstanding warrant, the suspect resisting arrest, the use of deadly force...?

Clearly, if 'accidents' happen under very similar circumstances in such a system, it's not accidents, it's policy that it's acceptable to use deadly force under any and all circumstances, when it should not be.

I strongly suspect it is not nearly as clear as you would like it to be.
What are you basing your "clearly" on?
And the past two years of protests and riots "Clearly" shows it is not acceptable, right?

Our entire law enforcement and judicial system needs reform, so that 'accidents' like this become a thing of the past.

Are you under the impression that "accidents like this" is the norm or something?

 

[Revoltingest]

How often would you consider "regularly"?
And what numbers are you using to make the declaration that this is a "regular" occurrence?
And what exactly are you saying is a "regular" occurrence, the outstanding warrant, the attempted arrest on an outstanding warrant, the suspect resisting arrest, the use of deadly force...?


I strongly suspect it is not nearly as clear as you would like it to be.
What are you basing your "clearly" on?
And the past two years of protests and riots "Clearly" shows it is not acceptable, right?


Are you under the impression that "accidents like this" is the norm or something?

If I may hop in to answer.....
This apparent accident needn't be regular....but accidents of
all kinds possible are. And there's a continuum between
"accident" & intentional injury/death.

What's "regular" is the massive news coverage of blacks being
victimized by cops. It's not about statistics of police shootings
at all. (Were it so, there'd be outrage at the far greater problem
of shootings & other injustices perpetrated against people of
all races.) It's about demonstrations, riots, looting, & arson;
& the resulting political pressures on police & politicians.

 

[McBell]

So she says. I disagree that the situation needed a taser. Yes, the individual made the wrong decision. But the police as supposed to try to calm the situation; instead, they escalated it, and the "accidental" or "unintentional" shooting resulted.

I am not one to allow criminals to roam free when they should be arrested.
To each their own, I suppose.