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Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
With all homage to Sri Ramanujacharya, one of the pillars of Hinduism, but this is only one view. Sri Acharya Matsyendra Nath had different views. Both were Acharyas, and Hinduism is not a one track religion.
 
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Chakra

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
With all homage to Sri Ramanujacharya, one of the pillars of Hinduism, but this is only one view. Sri Acharya Matsyendra had different views. Both were Acharyas, and Hinduism is not a one track religion.

Yes, I know. However, the original discussion was on Sri Vaishnavism.
 

ratikala

Istha gosthi
jai jai

thank you , ..I realy love the ones which give full translation

a favorite for you ...

[youtube]4Vvpp0tosWU#t=202[/youtube]
 

Chakra

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Thank you Ratikala-ji!

Also, as a sidenote, any one know what happened to JayaBholenath? She hasn't been online lately.
 

Maya3

Well-Known Member
Goodmorning!
I made a bit pot of coffee, please help yourself.

Not sure where Jayabolenath is...?

Maya
 

Maya3

Well-Known Member
I have set the table in the dining area, there are muffins, not sure who baked them but they smell amazing! Thank you! I made a big pot of chamomile tea and a small pot of coffee. It is getting late in the afternoon, so I think I too will stick to the chamomile today.

Maya
 

Asha

Member
Namaste

Thank you Axlyz prabhu and Ratikala mataji

Such beautiful videos to lift my day,

may I send one in return.

[youtube]WSiXhe8Rq08#t=5[/youtube]

Jai Shree Krishna
 

Asha

Member
Namaste

What has happened youve changed your name ?

So many in the Vaishnava community completely dismiss Shiva (as well as other Devas like Ganesha, Devi, Indra, etc.) or label them as Demi/Semi-Gods. That, despite having different roles from Vishnu, that they are not as important or relevant as Narayana.

I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding. I here this leveled at Gaudiya Vaisnavas all the time people seem to the Krishna when he speaks in the Gita, and even more so whan they read Srila Prabhupadas translations it is because he uses the word Demi God, people then approach this with a very abrahamic understanding.

I find it realy curious that so many people cling on to a very prujudiced idea of ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada which is not realy what Srila Prabhupada himself was teaching.
It is as if they just want to find fault. Maybe this is some hangover from their disatisfaction with Christianity ?

But dont you just love it! in walk a bunch of westerners with a chip on their sholders about religion and start stiring up trouble amongst the Hindus, saying that Vaisnavas disregard Shiva :( It is not true! Nor do we look down on any other so called Demi Gods, we respect them and even worship them at the appropriate times as every god has his or her respective function.

Next time you meet one of these trouble makers please ask him what his problem is ?

As time goes by, I find myself becoming more interested in Vaishnavism, but I don't like the strict exclusiveness that many Vaishnavas have.
Vaisnavism is wonderful, they may be a little more strict on the principles than some other traditions. But I dont realy understand what you mean by ''exclusiveness'' Do you mean that they appear to be aloof ?

We are not aloof, we are just a bit, well just a lot lost in our own world of loving Shree Hari :)

Jai Shree Krishna
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
Namaste

What has happened youve changed your name ?

Lol, yeah, I've changed my name. I just figured it was time for a change. This time it's a mash up of the poem Dark Night of the Soul and Batman; who is one of my favorite comic book characters.



I think this is a bit of a misunderstanding. I here this leveled at Gaudiya Vaisnavas all the time people seem to the Krishna when he speaks in the Gita, and even more so whan they read Srila Prabhupadas translations it is because he uses the word Demi God, people then approach this with a very abrahamic understanding.

I find it realy curious that so many people cling on to a very prujudiced idea of ISKCON and Srila Prabhupada which is not realy what Srila Prabhupada himself was teaching.
It is as if they just want to find fault. Maybe this is some hangover from their disatisfaction with Christianity ?

But dont you just love it! in walk a bunch of westerners with a chip on their sholders about religion and start stiring up trouble amongst the Hindus, saying that Vaisnavas disregard Shiva :( It is not true! Nor do we look down on any other so called Demi Gods, we respect them and even worship them at the appropriate times as every god has his or her respective function.

Next time you meet one of these trouble makers please ask him what his problem is ?

I truly hope that I do not come across as dismissive of ISKCON, because that is not my intention. Yes, I do not agree with a lot of what Prabupada said, but I don't disreagard anyone who does follow his teachings about Dharma.

That being said, there have been many ISKCON-ites whom I have spoken to who have this fervor when it comes to their religion. That Prabupada is like the final prophet of the times and that any other teacher or sampradaya is not worth the time of day. They have been the ones to tell me that only Krishna, not Shiva or even any of Vishnu's other avatars, are worth reverence. That is what I have an issue with and the ones whom I have primarily run into.

Vaisnavism is wonderful, they may be a little more strict on the principles than some other traditions. But I dont realy understand what you mean by ''exclusiveness'' Do you mean that they appear to be aloof ?

We are not aloof, we are just a bit, well just a lot lost in our own world of loving Shree Hari :)

Jai Shree Krishna

Yes, Vaisnhavism is very alluring and I'm giving it a chance. :) I'm interested in Ramaunja's Sri Vaishnavism and have been speaking with many practitioners.

What do I mean by "exclusiveness"? Well, as mentioned earlier, there are many Vaishnavas who say that only Krishna is worth any form of worship. Not Shiva, his family, any of the other avatars, or even Vishnu himself. Sri Vaishnavas, from what I have gathered, place Vishnu as the supreme and that praying to any of the avatars is equated with Narayan. As for Shiva, Sri Vaishnavas generally say that Shiva comes from Vishnu, but is also his own entity with his own role and modes of worship; yet is still, at the end f the day, no different from Vishnu. I think that where the Vishishtadvaita really comes into play.
 

Chakra

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Even though we worship only one Lord, we are able to enter a whole another world of prema and rasa that others can't.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Even though we worship only one Lord, we are able to enter a whole another world of prema and rasa that others can't.
Vinayaka enters the world of prema and rasa by worshiping Murugan, yours faithfully enters the world of prema and rasa by having his faith in Brahman, which is none other than Krishna. Poeticus enters the world of prema and rasa by voting for Yajnas. There are many ways. Of course, yours is Krishna, which I wholly appreciate.
 

Maya3

Well-Known Member
Could I ask that this previous discussion be moved?
This is our virtual ashram where we are getting to know each other personally, we have tea and coffee and just enjoy. It's not a place for debate.
Thank you.

Maya
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
Could I ask that this previous discussion be moved?
This is our virtual ashram where we are getting to know each other personally, we have tea and coffee and just enjoy. It's not a place for debate.
Thank you.

Maya

I agree. Since there are no Hindu mods now, it migh be harder for them, but I'm sure if you could compile a number list of which posts, they'd most likely agree. Save them some work too.

Today is nearing the end of fall, here, and it's supposed to get up to +20C or so. Warm for late October. We're going out for a country drive to see the many forms of God in nature. Being a former country boy, I occasionally I need (very similar to the need to get to the temple, if I miss for awhile) a break from this 'land of the Big smoke). Fall colours on trees are spectacular. There is no shortage of land for country drives in western Canada.
 

StarryNightshade

Spiritually confused Jew
Premium Member
Could I ask that this previous discussion be moved?
This is our virtual ashram where we are getting to know each other personally, we have tea and coffee and just enjoy. It's not a place for debate.
Thank you.

Maya

You're correct. I apologize for participating in the derailment.
 

Maya3

Well-Known Member
I agree. Since there are no Hindu mods now, it migh be harder for them, but I'm sure if you could compile a number list of which posts, they'd most likely agree. Save them some work too.

Today is nearing the end of fall, here, and it's supposed to get up to +20C or so. Warm for late October. We're going out for a country drive to see the many forms of God in nature. Being a former country boy, I occasionally I need (very similar to the need to get to the temple, if I miss for awhile) a break from this 'land of the Big smoke). Fall colours on trees are spectacular. There is no shortage of land for country drives in western Canada.

I didn´t know that we didn´t have Hindu moderators. :(

Sounds lovely to go for a country ride. The fall really is incredible. I saw some last weekend when we stayed in the country with my sister in law. It is gorgeous.

Dark Knight,
It´s ok, maybe you could continue the discussion and make a new thread?

Maya
 
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