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Paris terrorists not Practicing Muslims at all

Papoon

Active Member
Fulfilling the prophecy and behaving immorally doesn't make sense to me.
I said that i won't believe the media if in a case they fulfilled the prophecy, i'll
believe the events and what they achieved than what the media says about
their morals.

They said that Jesus was the son of whore and prophet Muhammed as a bloodthirsty,
should i believe the disbelievers and think that the prophets were unscrupulous and immoral.
The problem with Jesus is that no historians of that time and place mention him. Why not ?
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
Actually I think you're one of the ones that has linked ISIS to mainstream Islamic beliefs.

No. What I've said is that Islamic extremists and militants self-identify as Muslims and claim that their actions are justified by the Quran, therefore it is reasonable to consider them to be Muslims. In much the same way that it is reasonable to consider Wesboro Baptists to be Christians. That is not the same as saying that all Muslims are extremists or that all Christians are fundamentalists.
 

Shusha

Member
Yes the best thing is to wait and see what'll happen.

So, as a Muslim, when confronted with a group of Muslims who are committing immoral acts (I would dare say immoral acts in contravention of "true" Islam) is to do nothing? To say nothing against it?

This is an example of moderate Islam? To permit the killing of innocents, the slavery of innocents? And do nothing?
 
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Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
And why is anyone who criticises Islam accused of being "Islamophobic"? Christians sometimes complain about being marginalised, but they don't accuse everyone of being "Christianophobic".
 

Akivah

Well-Known Member
What does it mean to fight non-Muslims until all religion belongs to Allah. (Koran 2:193, 8:39, 48:16) ?
 

Demonslayer

Well-Known Member
And why is anyone who criticises Islam accused of being "Islamophobic"? Christians sometimes complain about being marginalised, but they don't accuse everyone of being "Christianophobic".

You obviously haven't heard about the red Starbucks cups. The war on Christmas has reached a fevered pitch.
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Would you please show some examples of the ISIS own thoughts that distributed over social media
and how could we know that they're the ISIS.

Yes the best thing is to wait and see what'll happen.
What are you asking for here? Are you asking for the various videos ISIS has put out?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
So, as a Muslim, when confronted with a group of Muslims who are committing immoral acts (I would dare say immoral acts in contravention of "true" Islam) is to do nothing? To say nothing against it?

This is an example of moderate Islam? To permit the killing of innocents, the slavery of innocents? And do nothing?

What they should do ? aren't the superpowers enough to fight them ?
How strong the moderate Muslims are compared to many countries that are fighting the ISIS ?
Don't say rubbish pls ?
 

Rick O'Shez

Irishman bouncing off walls
How strong the moderate Muslims are compared to many countries that are fighting the ISIS ?

Two billion moderate Muslims can surely deal with a few thousand extremists. If they can't or won't then they should stop whingeing when the west tries to deal with them.
 

Shusha

Member
What they should do ? aren't the superpowers enough to fight them ?
How strong the moderate Muslims are compared to many countries that are fighting the ISIS ?
Don't say rubbish pls ?

You really don't seem to understand what I am asking. I'm asking what you think your moral duty as a Muslim and an adherent of the faith of Islam and as a servant of G-d is to humanity. I'm asking what good Muslims should do in the face of such evil done in the name of G-d and in the name of Islam. I'm just asking you to stand up and share what you believe in and what moral values Islam teaches. I'm asking you to defend the weak and the innocent even if just in words on a forum. Jeez, its like pulling teeth.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
You really don't seem to understand what I am asking. I'm asking what you think your moral duty as a Muslim and an adherent of the faith of Islam and as a servant of G-d is to humanity. I'm asking what good Muslims should do in the face of such evil done in the name of G-d and in the name of Islam. I'm just asking you to stand up and share what you believe in and what moral values Islam teaches. I'm asking you to defend the weak and the innocent even if just in words on a forum. Jeez, its like pulling teeth.

Yes you need my words, they're evils, the extremists should be obliterated from the face of earth.
Hope the ISIS has gone forever with these words.
 

Shusha

Member
No, we leave it for you. they're fighting the west and not the moderate Muslims.

They ARE fighting moderate Muslims. They are fighting apostates and disbelievers -- which is all Muslims who don't believe in their particular brand of Islam.

They are also fighting Crusaders and Jews to extermination. Do you honestly believe they are right to do so? It sounds like you are saying that they are. At the very least you are saying it is none of your business.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
They ARE fighting moderate Muslims. They are fighting apostates and disbelievers -- which is all Muslims who don't believe in their particular brand of Islam.

They are also fighting Crusaders and Jews to extermination. Do you honestly believe they are right to do so? It sounds like you are saying that they are. At the very least you are saying it is none of your business.

Go and fight them, why you blame the moderate Muslims, they're threatening the west more than the others ?
Many countries are fighting them including the moderate Muslims and Jordan my home country is one.
 
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