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Please try to disprove anything I believe.

1137

1137

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Taylor Seraphim said:
Please try to disprove anything I believe is true.

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I think proof is a tricky thing. When I'm discussing my beliefs with people I'll share evidence and arguments, but proof is something very conclusive. Most of the time we cannot achieve it. Take something largely accepted such as big bang theory. It's been supported by lots of evidence and accepted for a long time. However, it isn't necessarily proven. What we've done is weigh evidence and mixed it with reason to come to a possible conclusion. More interestingly, the evidence that many believe "proves" big bang theory can be interpreted other ways, such as big crunch or even divine creation.

Let's look at another example that addresses your first belief, that there is no evidence for god. This is a point that many people disagree on, and one argument really sticks out in my mind: personal experience. I understand the inability to use subjective experience as proof, but we're talking more about a piece of evidence. Many people will argue that the experience is created by the brain, but it's something that cannot be proven. We can scan people's brains during prayer or mediation and see the brain light up in areas, which some interpret as evidence that religious experience is brain induced. But of you scan the brain of someone your stabbing with a needle, the brain also lights up. This doesn't imply the pain is made up.

Pain itself is the best example to support using experience as evidence, and it's how half of the field of medicine works. Take me, for example, who has a lot of unidentified issues. My pain is real, but no cause has been found. Brain scans or physiological tests will show pain, despite nothing seeming wrong physically. In medicine, this is not immediately pushed off to being all in ones head, because experiences arise from somewhere. It's the same for religious experience. Again this isn't proof through,it comes down to an interpretation of evidence.

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Taylor Seraphim

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
1137 said:
We can scan people's brains during prayer or mediation and see the brain light up in areas, which some interpret as evidence that religious experience is brain induced. But of you scan the brain of someone your stabbing with a needle, the brain also lights up. This doesn't imply the pain is made up.
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I am aware, but this occurs during many forms of introspection, thus does not prove religions to be correct in the slightest.
 
Taylor Seraphim

Taylor Seraphim

Angel of Reason
1137 said:
Pain itself is the best example to support using experience as evidence, and it's how half of the field of medicine works. Take me, for example, who has a lot of unidentified issues. My pain is real, but no cause has been found. Brain scans or physiological tests will show pain, despite nothing seeming wrong physically. In medicine, this is not immediately pushed off to being all in ones head, because experiences arise from somewhere. It's the same for religious experience. Again this isn't proof through,it comes down to an interpretation of evidence.
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Again religious experiences are a result of mixing many things that effect us psychologically not because of any divine intervention.
 
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