Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Spot on.
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Please try to disprove anything I believe.
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Spot on.
psychoslice
Veteran Member
yea, right on, that is how I feel also.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
That's a lot of 'non' there! LOL . . . how about explaining what this personal god 'is' instead of what it is not?
psychoslice
Veteran Member
It is said that there could have been many so called big bangs, and we in our universe are only one of those.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
My understanding is thus and therefore I have difficulty replying to your challenge
The Universe: totality of existence, both known and unknown to us
This is divided into:
1. Objective Universe (OU): Things are as they "are." Time, space, matter, energy, etc.
2. Subjective Universe (SU): Our unique personal perspective and experience of the OU. What we interpret and perceive it as.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Anything that is not a part of nature.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
I have seen no such universe as all of these occur in our brains in the true universe.
EtuMalku
Abn Iblis ابن إبليس
Are you able to define this without using a negative?
In the 'exclusive' objective universe, a house is simply a geometrically‑coordinated, gravitationally‑braced and weatherproof arrangement of certain kinds of molecules. As various individuals design, decorate, occupy, or view the house, however, it is imbued with characteristics assigned to it by them. It now exists in their several subjective universes, and it may continue to exist there even after the 'objective' house has been demolished.
You have now experienced the idea behind both Objective and Subjective Universes
Thief
Rogue Theologian
no material substance?.....no matter?
so much for Albert...
eternal universe?......and the expansion continues at increasing speed....and will dissipate
and Man has killed his brother.....from the beginning....
see Genesis
Thief
Rogue Theologian
cause and effect
Spirit first
That's not agreeable even to the Vedas, as consciousness and matter are both eternal.
We would have, at most, some differences of opinion. But there is nothing there I would see as falsifiable.
The hell are you talking about Chak? How is matter eternal?
Thanks for vid
There are three things that are eternal: God, the Jiva, and matter (Chit, Achit, Ishvara). God did not create the Jivas, and he also did not "create matter" (like how the Christian God created everything using clay or dust or whatever). The universe is eternal, since this is where the Jivas were residing. Of course, creating and designing the universe are two different things, in my opinion.
:L How can the universe be eternal? Did i dun goofed?
What makes you think it was created a couple of billion years ago? The Hindu religion believes in cyclical time...rebirth and death of the universe and so on.
I mean our Day of Brahma was 14.3 billion years ago. So your saying our universe and others were always there like jivas?
Yes. That's not to say that it will always be there.
How come it won't always be there?