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[Meow Mix]

Like i said, if you're wearing it, you ain't living it'. It's a false testimony to who you are. A canvas lasts for others to enjoy, it is not an irreversible process, it proves nothing, very few others get any fulfilment out of it, ... but, if I learnt to play guitar, that's a skillset that overlaps into other disciplines, and allows many others to be both inspired, and to enjoy.

What do you mean others don't get any fulfillment out of it? I check out peoples' tattoos all the time and vice versa. Perhaps you're just not interested in tattoos, and projecting the feeling of uselessness that you feel about them?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

So what with the "party girl" aspects, right?

We've had too much fun and embracing life too hard, apparently.

I have no idea in what context you're saying "nerd" and "wholesome" then, because all of my friends and myself are nerds, and I would call us wholesome.

I'd also like to know. I have prosthetic elf ears, a latex foam sword, leather chest armor and gauntlets and other fun custom accessories to LARP with.
Despite what others may say, I had a BLAST role playing a dark elf like that.

 

[DNB]

Rebellious is who I am.

I am overall pretty harmless. This comes with decades of supporting evidence. Real violence upsets and unnerves me and I do not like it. I even feel guilt eating meat because of the violence and death inherent in meat consumption. If I have to defend myself I will, but it isn't something I want nor do I find pleasure in it.
I also know my short comings. But, obviously, I am not a Christian. Without being one I strive to improve bad traits (like anger) while improving the good (like learning new things). We don't need a god or religion to know helping others is a good thing, and we shouldn't steal or tell lies.

We're desensitized in this world, most do not truly appreciate how depraved and abusive that we all are. When God is the standard, who would dare to call themselves good, or who will be able to stand within His presence?
Either way, as you said (but for the wrong reason), we don't even have to make an appeal to God in order to perceive the wretchedness in all of us.
Who loves their neighbour as themselves, the most elementary, intuitive and just principle in all the earth - you won't find one?

 

[Meow Mix]

Yes, understood, ....but, will they call themselves a coward, depraved and a hypocrite the way that I will about myself? This is extremely rare outside of Christian circles, if existent at all.
...and, yes, I can prove what i said about myself.

I think virtues are on a continuum of deficiency and excess.

So for instance a deficiency of integrity is corruption, an excess is legalism.

A deficiency of discernment is foolishness, an excess is judgmentalism.

A deficiency of love towards others is selfishness, an excess is enablement.

A deficiency of respect is disregard, an excess is idolatry.

And so on.

Importantly, the spectrum of humility: a deficiency is pride, but an excess is degradation. I think you're in self-degradation territory. We can recognize our faults without self-degrading. I would argue it empowers us more to battle our faults if we hold strong to the notion that we can fight that fight.

You want to talk about wisdom: I think wisdom is knowing to avoid the deficiency OR the excess.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

we don't even have to make an appeal to God in order to perceive the wretchedness in all of us.

I am not wretched. It is just not there.

When God is the standard, who would dare to call themselves good

When Jehovah is the standard I am will proudly boast and proclaim to the Heavens that I am better. That humanity overall is of a better charact than Jehovah.

 

[DNB]

I guess; and I am to an extent. But I hold down a full time job, I'm bridging a PhD as we speak, what you wouldn't know is that I do philosophy recreationally and send 10% biweekly to local and international causes and volunteer my time on the holidays to help the needy (this feels like bragging, which is gross, but I'm just trying to make a point). And so do those that I spend my time with around me. Wouldn't your picture be totally wrong where it matters? So what with the "party girl" aspects, right?

Yes, I would've been wrong as far as the compassionate aspect is concerned. Party people are often selfish and hedonistic, by definition (having a good time for themselves, always comes first).

 

[DNB]

I have no idea in what context you're saying "nerd" and "wholesome" then, because all of my friends and myself are nerds, and I would call us wholesome.

Bookworms, sheltered, wall-flowers, etc.. conservative and studious people, more than jocks, socialites, gregarious, extroverts, party animals....

 

[DNB]

Why would you make such judgments? Have you not heard appearances can be deceiving? Even Jesus says to judge not, and he was fond of hanging out with people who would probably fail your test. They weren't prim and proper, they weren't of high repute, and he himself was a long haired beggar.
People judging by appearances is why a part of why I left Indiana. I left behind friends and family and left the only home I'd known because people who judge those who have non-mainstream appearances made life unbearable and miserable. Christians acting on the same principles as you, and it drove me away.
All it tells me is they hate Jesus. They mistreat the least among them, and that is how they treat Jesus.

You have Jesus wrong. He consorted with the outcasts, the rejected by society and rebels, because, as he said, it is the 'sick' that need a doctor. Not because he thought that they were whole, acceptable as they were, or heading in the right path. He was trying to change them.

I'm not hating on anybody, I'm trying to understand what is in one's best interest to engage in during their short and precarious time on the earth. Also, how to understand who you're dealing with, an extremely important insight, by reading all the available signs. Appearances always matter, either for better or for worse. Some, more than others, but it all means something.

 

[DNB]

What do you mean others don't get any fulfillment out of it? I check out peoples' tattoos all the time and vice versa. Perhaps you're just not interested in tattoos, and projecting the feeling of uselessness that you feel about them?

But, in the same manner that superficial or materialistic women can talk about each other's jewelry all day long, discussions about tattoos tend to have as much meaning and usefulness.

 

[DNB]

I think virtues are on a continuum of deficiency and excess.

So for instance a deficiency of integrity is corruption, an excess is legalism.

A deficiency of discernment is foolishness, an excess is judgmentalism.

A deficiency of love towards others is selfishness, an excess is enablement.

A deficiency of respect is disregard, an excess is idolatry.

And so on.

Importantly, the spectrum of humility: a deficiency is pride, but an excess is degradation. I think you're in self-degradation territory. We can recognize our faults without self-degrading. I would argue it empowers us more to battle our faults if we hold strong to the notion that we can fight that fight.

You want to talk about wisdom: I think wisdom is knowing to avoid the deficiency OR the excess.

Yes, but I only say these things in regard to my position before God, basically. My short-comings do not compel me to feel inferior or insecure towards other humans, in general. But, realizing that I'm not necessarily a great guy, forces me to be cautious of my behaviour around others. But, again, not in a subservient or demeaned manner, but in a humble and concerned manner. I feel stronger when I recognize this wretchedness, and thus, don't get anxious nor take things for granted, in principle.

 

[Meow Mix]

But, in the same manner that superficial or materialistic women can talk about each other's jewelry all day long, discussions about tattoos tend to have as much meaning and usefulness.

Not everything has to be meaningful, though. Good ol’ Master Yoda would say, "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was... what he was doing."

 

[DNB]

I am not wretched. It is just not there.

When Jehovah is the standard I am will proudly boast and proclaim to the Heavens that I am better. That humanity overall is of a better charact than Jehovah.

So, one minute your preaching Jesus as an example of humility, compassion and respect, and now you're showing nothing but contempt for his Father, the God that he loved with all his heart, mind and soul.
Why is it only the Christians who, first, recognize their faults, and two, admit it?

 

[DNB]

Not everything has to be meaningful, though. Good ol’ Master Yoda would say, "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was... what he was doing."

Not everything, but life is short, not too much time, effort or money should be spent on frivolity.
And, maybe if Yoda had spent a bit more time in the present, he would have realized that war was not the only solution (i just looked up who he was now, i tried making a joke, but failed)

 

[Meow Mix]

Not everything, but life is short, not too much time, effort or money should be spent on frivolity.
And, maybe if Yoda had spent a bit more time in the present, he would have realized that war was not the only solution (i just looked up who he was now, i tried making a joke, but failed)

Woah you're telling me you've never seen Star Wars?! What kind of nerd are you!

In any case, I think we'll just have to disagree on some of this. I will not judge people based on having tattoos or alternative presentations; I will prefer to judge them based on their actions. I will enjoy spending time on frivolity occasionally because I spend time on important things when it matters. I will enjoy life, and I will walk the duplicitous edge of avoiding deficiency and excess. That is my way.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Appearances always matter, either for better or for worse. Some, more than others, but it all means something.

I'd much rather associate with those who don't do that. They're less judgemental, have always had my back, and are more interested in knowing me as a person rather than an appearance.

So, one minute your preaching Jesus as an example of humility, compassion and respect, and now you're showing nothing but contempt for his Father, the God that he loved with all his heart, mind and soul.
Why is it only the Christians who, first, recognize their faults, and two, admit it?

I don't think Jesus is all that great. He said nothing original, he fell short of other moral teachers, and his best example, the golden rule, falls very short when you think it through. I also think humility and modesty are over rated.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Not everything has to be meaningful, though. Good ol’ Master Yoda would say, "All his life has he looked away... to the future, to the horizon. Never his mind on where he was... what he was doing."

What? That's the antithesis of the ninja, mysticism thing that make up the Jedis. Heretical writings, you speak of! Blasphemy! Heresy! BURN THE WITCH!!!!

 

[Meow Mix]

What? That's the antithesis of the ninja, mysticism thing that make up the Jedis. Heretical writings, you speak of! Blasphemy! Heresy! BURN THE WITCH!!!!

Hey I was on board with TLJ Luke: the Jedi needed to end. Then they came along and screwed all that up.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Hey I was on board with TLJ Luke: the Jedi needed to end. Then they came along and screwed all that up.

The screwed it from showing a Stormtrooper bleeding at the beginning of Episode 7. It was crap, and so unoriginal they blew up another Death Star type thing. Star Wars does that about as often as all shark movies blow up the shark at the end.
I haven't watched the other two.

 

[Meow Mix]

The screwed it from showing a Stormtrooper bleeding at the beginning of Episode 7. It was crap, and so unoriginal they blew up another Death Star type thing. Star Wars does that about as often as all shark movies blow up the shark at the end.
I haven't watched the other two.

I still enjoyed it. At the end of the day I got my pew pews and my space wizards with laser swords.

Still, TLJ was the best of the three because it did try to launch it in a new direction; but the first one should have done that (different director). Basically JJ Abrams tried to play it safe with the first one after the huge blowout from the prequels, basically "ok so the prequels weren't like Star Wars eh? Here's something that's exactly like Star Wars!"

Then Rian Johnson took the reins for The Last Jedi and said "no, we need to do something new, let's get rid of all this old stuff that's already been done and go in a new direction."

Some fans hated TLJ because of this. So then for Rise of Skywalker they brought back everything Rian Johnson got rid of in TLJ.

Ultimately, I still liked it: I just reminded myself "it doesn't have to do anything other than pew pews and space wizards." And it did that. But in a better world, it would have also been good storytelling. If Rian Johnson just did the whole trilogy, it would have been so much better.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Basically JJ Abrams

I started calling him Jar Jar Abrams after that one. He is the killer of classic sci-fi. Like taking Star Trek from a show about philosophy, morality, and diversity and turning it into action rubbish. It made what was such a gem that it was even pro trans in TNG into making "the needs of the many" line into a cheap, meaningless, nothing.