Pro Life or Pro Choice?

[The Sum of Awe]

That's assuming there's no soul in the equation.

In that case it probably wouldn't matter if the soul were born. Even if it did; as long as the soul exists doesn't mean it will never have a physical life on earth. If there's a soul pre-birth it really wouldn't matter if a body it was going to take over was aborted, it will simply be an unusable shell.

As long as the soul exists pre-birth; it will eventually be born into a body, and if not it still has a life of its own without a body which I often heard would be so much more peaceful than living on earth.

In my opinion, there isn't a person until after birth, that the 'soul' or 'person' doesn't exist until it is made. They only exist as concepts, but it's useless to view them that way - there is an infinite number of unborn babies. But at the same time there is zero unborn babies because of the mere fact the baby was not yet created

 

[Glaurung]

Something that is curious to me: In the US there are about 3,700 abortions per day, and there is quite a lot of outrage about it. But worldwide, about 19,000 children die of starvation each day, and that fact seems to generate much less outrage than the 3,700 abortions. For that and other reasons, I'm not sure "Pro-Life" is as accurate a term as "Anti-Abortion" in at least very many cases. Although, to be fair, I'm sure there are some people who are genuinely Pro-Life.

We consider abortion wrong, because we consider the very act of abortion to be the moral equivalent of murder; except perhaps in extenuating circumstances. I really don't care one way or the other what political label you want to attach to this.

Starvation in the third world while also tragic, is irrelevant to the question.

 

[Maldini]

In first 4 months of pregnancy pro-choice, then pro life.

 

[Kerr]

I am pro-choice.

 

[Thruve]

Yep, same with everyone. I'm still not sure how that is a bad thing.

Because IM BLESSED that I wasn't aborted..
Many here are also blessed that they too, were not aborted O-O
See my point? Were glad they chose sacrafice.. and life for us.. whether it was an option for them or not -.-

 

[Nyingjé Tso]

What another woman do with her body doesn't concern me. What I do with mine doesn't concern them.

It is all individual, personal and different situations that have to be dealt by the concerned individuals.

I am for choice. I want to, and I am glad to have a choice, and I certainly do not want to rob anyone from this choice.

 

[BSM1]

Millions of babies who were aborted could have been the next Edison or Einstein etc.

So are you saying that there is not a child living today that is this smart?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Something that is curious to me: In the US there are about 3,700 abortions per day, and there is quite a lot of outrage about it. But worldwide, about 19,000 children die of starvation each day, and that fact seems to generate much less outrage than the 3,700 abortions. For that and other reasons, I'm not sure "Pro-Life" is as accurate a term as "Anti-Abortion" in at least very many cases. Although, to be fair, I'm sure there are some people who are genuinely Pro-Life.

Excellent point. There is also the fact that many "pro-lifers" are also support the death penalty.
I am curious about the late term exceptions. At no point in fetal development is there a sense of self-awareness, which means there is no "that hurts" or even "I hurt." From zygote, blastocyte, to developing fetus, there is no self-awareness to know and register any sort of pain.

 

[Mister Emu]

Something that is curious to me: In the US there are about 3,700 abortions per day, and there is quite a lot of outrage about it. But worldwide, about 19,000 children die of starvation each day, and that fact seems to generate much less outrage than the 3,700 abortions. For that and other reasons, I'm not sure "Pro-Life" is as accurate a term as "Anti-Abortion" in at least very many cases. Although, to be fair, I'm sure there are some people who are genuinely Pro-Life.

There might be a bit more outrage if people were campaigning in support of child starvation...

In only one of the two is there a concerted defense of the depraved and morally repugnant, might be why there is the disparate "outrage".

 

[Sunstone]

We consider abortion wrong, because we consider the very act of abortion to be the moral equivalent of murder; except perhaps in extenuating circumstances. I really don't care one way or the other what political label you want to attach to this.

Starvation in the third world while also tragic, is irrelevant to the question.

And to your mind, that explains why there appears to be within the Catholic community more outrage against 3,700 abortions than against 19,000 starvations? If so, interesting.

 

[BSM1]

dat logic

So if my mom had a choice back then, Its not like I would have ever known had she aborted me O-O

You're kidding, right? Do you even remember your first birthday?

 

[BSM1]

Or the next Hitler, Pol Pot, Richard Ramirez, or Charles Starkweather.

Or Nancy Pelosi .

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Because IM BLESSED that I wasn't aborted..
Many here are also blessed that they too, were not aborted O-O
See my point? Were glad they chose sacrafice.. and life for us.. whether it was an option for them or not -.-

I'm not saying you're wrong about that. All that I'm saying is that if you were not "blessed" with life, it wouldn't matter to you because you'd hold no existence.

Abortions don't hurt anybody, don't prevent anybody from being born, don't kill anybody, nothing of the sort, because until it is born, there isn't a person, only a hunk of flesh preparing to be animated.

 

[Thruve]

I'm not saying you're wrong about that. All that I'm saying is that if you were not "blessed" with life, it wouldn't matter to you because you'd hold no existence.

Abortions don't hurt anybody, don't prevent anybody from being born, don't kill anybody, nothing of the sort, because until it is born, there isn't a person, only a hunk of flesh preparing to be animated.

So were gonna play the everything is relative game I take it.
Well get this, http://www.silentnomoreawareness.org/testimonies/

I know one women who ended up depressed because she had an abortion.
She posted a testimony on this site.

 

[Brickjectivity]

I'm not saying you're wrong about that. All that I'm saying is that if you were not "blessed" with life, it wouldn't matter to you because you'd hold no existence.

Abortions don't hurt anybody, don't prevent anybody from being born, don't kill anybody, nothing of the sort, because until it is born, there isn't a person, only a hunk of flesh preparing to be animated.

I think that is true up until some point midway into the pregnancy. Somewhere along the way the cells begin to gain some viability and potential to suffer. At the same time, it is up to mothers. Everyone else needs to stay off of their backs about it.

 

[Revoltingest]

"Pro-Choice" is close enuf, but I'm really more "Pro-Abortion".

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I am Pro-Life to a certain extent. I believe we in the U.S. should have sensible and balanced laws regarding abortion. I believe that late term abortion should be illegal and by late term I mean after the 12th week of pregnancy.

 

[Alceste]

That's assuming there's no soul in the equation.

If there were such a thing, surely a loving god would stick it into a wanted fetus rather than let it go to waste.

 

[Maldini]

If there were such a thing, surely a loving god would stick it into a wanted fetus rather than let it go to waste.

hey that's not fair. It's not like God makes the rules.

Wait...

 

[Alceste]

So were gonna play the everything is relative game I take it.
Well get this, I had an abortion-Stories of experience

I know one women who ended up depressed because she had an abortion.
She posted a testimony on this site.

I know dozens of women who are depressed because they started a family they were not psychologically, emotionally or financially prepared for with a father they don't particularly care for. Let's ban marriage!