Prospective President Kamala Harris

[Jayhawker Soule]

Have you forgotten in 2016 the American people gave Hillary almost three million more votes than Trump.

No.

 

[Wandering Monk]

I like Whitmer. As for the rest, while Buttigieg has never been a governor, he ...

is an American politician and former naval officer who is serving as the 19th United States secretary of transportation. A member of the Democratic Party, he was the 32nd mayor of South Bend, Indiana, from 2012 to 2020, which earned him the nickname "Mayor Pete".​

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Buttigieg is a graduate of Harvard College and the University of Oxford, attending the latter on a Rhodes Scholarship. From 2009 to 2017, he was an intelligence officer in the United States Navy Reserve, attaining the rank of lieutenant. He was mobilized and deployed to the War in Afghanistan for seven months in 2014. [source]​

For the others here: a navy lieutenant is the equivalent pay grade as an army captain.

 

[fantome profane]

They all should get behind her. Its the only smart move.
Almost four years with Harris.
Anyone new starts from scratch and will only have four months.

I think the are.

I expect Obama himself will be the last one to endorse her. Don't interpret that to mean that Obama is going to against her, that is not it. Obama sees himself as an "elder statesman" now and will want to be impartial till the convention.

I heard Bernie Sanders say he wants to talk to Harris before he endorses her. He is going to try to get some promises to advance a progressive agenda. Good for Bernie!

The qualifications for Pres are also the same for VP.
She already passed any hurdles on birth by being VP.
Its a dead end if they try.

They will try anyway. Just watch.

 

[We Never Know]

If the APA tells degreed psychologists to knock off the arm chair diagnosing why are you doing it?
It doesn't matter how much you hate the man doing that **** has real world consequences.

You realize he is talking about Trump right.
Compared to some of your posts you fit right in with your comment.

 

[crossfire]

I expect this. I can say all day how I opposer her policies and ideas but it won't matter in the end, I will be told I won't vote for her because she is a woman. This happened with Clinton as well. Ho hum.

Please go on about her policies! Let's discuss the issues! It would be much better than a simple dismissal of the issues by chanting "DEI Harris." (Is there anything lazier than that?) I promise not to play the racist/sexist card as long as you stick to the issues!

 

[fantome profane]

If the APA tells degreed psychologists to knock off the arm chair diagnosing why are you doing it?
It doesn't matter how much you hate the man doing that **** has real world consequences.

This is a really interesting book.

The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"essays from 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the "clear and present danger" that US President Donald Trump's mental health poses to the "nation and individual well being".

These experts discuss the place of the "Goldwater rule" that suggests they should refrain from diagnosing a public figure and sharing that diagnosis publicly, but balancing that with the duty of professionals to warn the public about a clear danger.

Donald Trump is a dangerous malignant narcissist and unfit to be President. That is not me saying that, it is those 27 professionals who felt that the danger was so great they had a duty to warn.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

You realize he is talking about Trump right.
Compared to some of your posts you fit right in with your comment.

I've not armchair diagnosed anyone. It's not only unethical and immoral it is damaging and stigmatizing. I don't engage in it.
And I don't struggle reading English or comprehending it like so many here do, so obviously and of course, as given the context and history, it's obvious I know Quintessence is talking about Trump.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This is a really interesting book.
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The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

"essays from 27 psychiatrists, psychologists, and other mental health professionals describing the "clear and present danger" that US President Donald Trump's mental health poses to the "nation and individual well being".

These experts discuss the place of the "Goldwater rule" that suggests they should refrain from diagnosing a public figure and sharing that diagnosis publicly, but balancing that with the duty of professionals to warn the public about a clear danger.

Donald Trump is a dangerous malignant narcissist and unfit to be President. That is not me saying that, it is those 27 professionals who felt that the danger was so great they had a duty to warn.

It's all garbage. You do NOT diagnose someone if this person is not your patient. It fuels stigmatization, it's destructive for those with mental illnesses, it's damaging in efforts towarda treatment, it does a net harm.
There isno excusing such improper behaviors. Anyone with eyes that aren't clouded can see Trump is a clear danger to democracy. Trying to diagnose someone who isn't your patient has many limitations and concerns. Sounding an alarm is no justification to side step these issues and do it anyways.

 

[fantome profane]

You do NOT diagnose someone if this person is not your patient.

That is your opinion. Others do not think it is a clear as you seem to think. Life often presents us with ethical dilemma's where it is not as simple as following an absolute rule. The experts in this book, as well as many many others, have concluded that the danger of remaining silent is greater than the danger of speaking out. They concluded that they had a duty to warn. After reading this book I can assure you that they did not make this decision lightly. They are not speaking out for fun, or for fame, or for money. They have actually put their own safety at risk in speaking out. But they felt the danger was that great.

The book is out there. You will not be breaking any ethnical principle if you decide to read it. I recommend it highly.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Being female isn't a big problem to Americans. Have you forgotten in 2016 the American people gave Hillary almost three million more votes than Trump.

I don't know where you grew up, but where I'm from I got to hear from lots of unsavory men go on how a woman can't be president because she'd have her finger over "the button" (nuclear launch) every month, and because women are stupid, weak, with it occasionally being thrown in because she's not to usurp authority from men.
Harris isn't Hillary, meaning it will be a different race than in 2020. It may be misplaced hope, but hearing a woman can't win brings to mind how that didn't stop Kennedy from winning despite all the stuff about how a Catholic can never win. Amd if she plays her cards right I really think she can win, because she can potentially make the South and elsewhere competitive and flip states like Obama and Biden. Abortion being a thorn to Republicans can also play tremendously to her advantage.
But she's likely to face a Red Congress like Obama during his first two years.

 

[We Never Know]

I don't know where you grew up, but where I'm from I got to hear from lots of unsavory men go on how a woman can't be president because she'd have her finger over "the button" (nuclear launch) every month, and because women are stupid, weak, with it occasionally being thrown in because she's not to usurp authority from men.
Harris isn't Hillary, meaning it will be a different race than in 2020. It may be misplaced hope, but hearing a woman can't win brings to mind how that didn't stop Kennedy from winning despite all the stuff about how a Catholic can never win. Amd if she plays her cards right I really think she can win, because she can potentially make the South and elsewhere competitive and flip states like Obama and Biden. Abortion being a thorn to Republicans can also play tremendously to her advantage.
But she's likely to face a Red Congress like Obama during his first two years.

Yes misogyny exists in America.
However the American people still gave female Hillary more votes that her man opponent Trump.
I would be curious to know how many men vs women voted for and against Hillary.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

This is also happy making

People wanting to make history I think may be what turns this election around. She's younger, mentally sharp and she can campaign on the Dems having listened to America. The Reps have only doubled down on their candidate Americans as a People have already formally said no to twice already.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Yes misogyny exists in America.
However the American people still gave female Hillary more votes that her man opponent Trump.
I would be curious to know how many men vs women voted for and against Hillary.

Yes, I do feel that part may not be as hefty a factor as portrayed. Afterall it's widely believed the last email thing Comey dropped sunk her ship, but all the conspiracy crap surrounding the Clintons.
And Harris isn't Hillary. She's got that going for her especially if she can unite the Left.

 

[We Never Know]

Yes, I do feel that part may not be as hefty a factor as portrayed. Afterall it's widely believed the last email thing Comey dropped sunk her ship, but all the conspiracy crap surrounding the Clintons.
And Harris isn't Hillary. She's got that going for her especially if she can unite the Left.

Emails or what ever. It doesn't change a female received 48.2 % of the votes compared to 46.1% for her male opponent.

So if you think that stuff sunk her, then she may have even gotten more.

Point is in 2016 the American people already gave approval for a female president with their votes.

 

[Quagmire]

This is also happy making

I'd vote for Lisa in a heartbeat.

 

[Copernicus]

For those who would like some more details about Harris's background:

Who is Kamala Harris? The life of the woman stepping into the 2024 limelight​

 

[Regiomontanus]

Yes, game over, and not in a good way.

I do not think you appreciate the crossover appeal, in rural America, of Fetterman. I think he is a bit of an ***, but my opinion of him is not important.

 

[Spice]

I don't know where you grew up, but where I'm from I got to hear from lots of unsavory men go on how a woman can't be president because she'd have her finger over "the button" (nuclear launch) every month, and because women are stupid, weak, with it occasionally being thrown in because she's not to usurp authority from men.
Harris isn't Hillary, meaning it will be a different race than in 2020. It may be misplaced hope, but hearing a woman can't win brings to mind how that didn't stop Kennedy from winning despite all the stuff about how a Catholic can never win. Amd if she plays her cards right I really think she can win, because she can potentially make the South and elsewhere competitive and flip states like Obama and Biden. Abortion being a thorn to Republicans can also play tremendously to her advantage.
But she's likely to face a Red Congress like Obama during his first two years.

First and foremost she needs to never, ever, come anywhere near acting like MTG, and Boebert acted today in their questioning of SS Director, K. Cheatle. It was disgraceful and a perfect example as to why so many still doubt the abilities of women in leadership roles. Cheadle calmly maintained dignity, however.

 

[Jayhawker Soule]

I do not think you appreciate the crossover appeal, in rural America, of Fetterman.

I believe that I do. We differ.

 

[We Never Know]

First and foremost she needs to never, ever, come anywhere near acting like MTG, and Boebert acted today in their questioning of SS Director, K. Cheatle. It was disgraceful and a perfect example as to why so many still doubt the abilities of women in leadership roles. Cheadle calmly maintained dignity, however.

What went on with Cheatle today?