This sort of repsonse is so tiresome.Not really. I would rather say the question would sound like a "Could you ENJOY putting your penis into another mans bottom or have him doing it to you? Yould you ENJOY living in a (also) sexual relationship with such a man?
I didnt say it equals one another. I only said that one is also part of the other.
I do doubt that you love your mother like you love your wife you know. At least I hope for your wifes sake
There is more than enough evidence to suggest that it is a fixed setting you get way before reaching puperty. And of course nobody is "forced to engage in sex acts". That doesnt however mean he can choose his sexual desires and affections.
Homosexuality (and heterosexuality) are more than just the mere act.
First of all you do not need to watch such tv shows. You know, you have a choice.
Secondly i would rather like to see concrete statistics than mere claims. "nearly every tv show" is not really any reliable number.
Apart of that I wonder where your problem is. Who cares if they are gay or straight? Obviously you. I wonder how this fits into your supposed golden rule belief.
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proving homosexuality has a biological cause
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blackout
Violet.
Well you are obviously quite the expert on anal sex.
I want to know where we all stand regarding oral sex.
SURELY you must know.
Is it a sin? An affront to god? An unnatural act? A natural abomination? or not.
Surely you must agree it is an IMPORTANT question.
And it needs to be answered.
blackout
Violet.
Your post, if I recal, hit it right on the head,
and then proved itself true just several posts later.
But I can't be bothered to go back and check.
(I'll frubal it later...)
ThereIsNoSpoon
Active Member
As far as i have seen by now you do evade questions.
So again:
"Could you ENJOY sex with another man? Could you ENJOY living in a (also) sexual relationship with such a man?"
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
Originally Posted by sevenz
My brother is gay and I know why he is gay and it has everything to do with the relationship tha he had with his parents and the family dynamic. EVERYTHING It is not in nate it is the result of erotising the male male weakness of the father figure and a smothering mother that leads to men having homosexual urges at puberty.
Looks to me like that's straight out of a book by James Dobson...
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
See YouTube - James Dobson on Ted Haggard (Larry King) fast forward to 2:03
enchanted_one1975
Resident Lycanthrope
No sexual act between two (or more) consenting adults is wrong.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Here's your sign.....
YEs it is.
Granted. After all, how could one call ...... gay-bashing, much less coherent?
MSizer
MSizer
No, it's not. Nobody shall tell me what I may or may not do with my body as long as anybody involved is in agreement with it. Period. Anybody who thinks otherwise is appealing purely to emotion and hasn't the courage to admit that their position is indefensible. They just think it's ikcy, don't like it, and as far as i'm concerned, too bad - live with it.
MSizer
MSizer
No, we won't. Live with it.
At the risk of derailing the thread, would you include sadomasochism or otherwise abusive relationships?
enchanted_one1975
Resident Lycanthrope
Sadomasochism takes place with consent. Abuse takes place against one's will. They are not the same or even similar.
Therefore? Are you seriously arguing that abuse is only abuse if it's against one's will?
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angellous_evangellous
Guest
It seems to me that if a person "consents" to abusive behavior, the question of the power to consent needs to be asked.
That is, a person may not have the power to consent if they are willingly hurting themselves or allowing others to harm them.
So "consent" is not the only standard of measure for inappropriate or dangerous (or even legal) actions, there must also be a standard of harm.
That is, a person may not have the power to consent if they are willingly hurting themselves or allowing others to harm them.
So "consent" is not the only standard of measure for inappropriate or dangerous (or even legal) actions, there must also be a standard of harm.
MSizer
MSizer
OK, good point, I do believe that I must also consider whether I truly believe that a person is in a good state of mind when they provide consent. I agree that there are people who let themselves undergo harm and it is not beneficial to them. As far as sadomasichism, I'm not really sure what it is, but if it's just allowing onself to be physically hurt because that's what one wants, as long as the person is capable of recognizing what is harmful and still approves, then I don't object in any way. On the other hand, if a 14 year old girl wanted sexual relations, or a 24 year old whom I know submits to abusive behaviour at her own expense of happiness, I would not participate, and would hope that nobody else would either.