Public School Bible Class: Imagine Adam Crawling up the Back of a Dinosaur

[Nietzsche]

You probably wouldn't see humans and apes anywhere near the dinosaurs, Must have got caught in different mud slides.

That's just it. They don't exist in the same strata. We've never found primate fossils anywhere near the strata we find dinosaurs. And we've never found dinosaurs above the K-T Boundary, which is a layer of rock found literally everywhere on the planet in the same relative place. It is a literal "band" of distinct rock. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Beyond that point, we don't see very many big animals until much later.

And as the Story goes, People didn't die originally. Adam and Eve could have been around forever if they had not eaten the forbidden fruit. So you wouldn't find fossilized humans. Who can say how long they lived since their timers didn't start until they ate the forbidden fruit and sin entered the world. At that point their days were number to 1,000 years which is equal to 1 day in God time. As he said, " In the day that you eat of it you will surely die."

One thousand years is not remotely long enough. Multiply that number a few hundred-thousand or so times and get back to me.

 

[Bob the Unbeliever]

As he said, " In the day that you eat of it you will surely die."

Except... they did not actually die, did they? No-- they lived (according to the book) thousands of days beyond that day...

Hmmmm... it appears that the bible's god lied, here!

 

[Kemosloby]

That's just it. They don't exist in the same strata. We've never found primate fossils anywhere near the strata we find dinosaurs. And we've never found dinosaurs above the K-T Boundary, which is a layer of rock found literally everywhere on the planet in the same relative place. It is a literal "band" of distinct rock. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Beyond that point, we don't see very many big animals until much later.


One thousand years is not remotely long enough. Multiply that number a few hundred-thousand or so times and get back to me.

You didn't get what I was saying. They could have lived indefinitely before they sinned, and could have been a few hundred thousand years old. But when they sinned, death entered the world, they became mortal, at that point their days were numbered to 1,000 years.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

It isn't though, is it. It's the good old bible.



Well don't move to Mercer county.

Ok then. By that logic it's okay if for example Washington forced people to convert to Satanism. If you do t like it get out.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

It isn't though, is it. It's the good old bible.



Well don't move to Mercer county.

Oh and btw this is America. Here we have separation of church and state. If you don't like it you can leave/stay out.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

But private schools aren't funded by taxes, so they don't violate the seperation of church and state.

I agree.

Private schools should be able to be religious.

 

[Nietzsche]

You didn't get what I was saying. They could have lived indefinitely before they sinned, and could have been a few hundred thousand years old. But when they sinned, death entered the world, they became mortal, at that point their days were numbered to 1,000 years.

No, no no. I said multiply that 1000 by a few hundreds of thousands. You need 65 million years just to see the ***-end of the Cretaceous Period.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

You didn't get what I was saying. They could have lived indefinitely before they sinned, and could have been a few hundred thousand years old. But when they sinned, death entered the world, they became mortal, at that point their days were numbered to 1,000 years.

Then why are there transitionary fossils?

 

[Kemosloby]

No, no no. I said multiply that 1000 by a few hundreds of thousands. You need 65 million years just to see the ***-end of the Cretaceous Period.

I said indefinitely. At 365,000 years our time Adam and Eve were 1 year old God time. Adam was alone for a long time so Eve had not even been created until Adam was millions our time.

 

[Nietzsche]

I said indefinitely. At 365,000 years our time Adam and Eve were 1 year old God time. Adam was alone for a long time so Eve had not even been created until Adam was millions our time.

I'm not sure it's fruitful to keep going on if you're going to keep arbitrarily increasing their life-span without giving me one reason to think that is more likely than the explanation of "there just weren't humans around when there were dinosaurs".

Occam's Razor says that the over-whelming majority of the time, the answer with the smallest number of conditions required to be correct, is the right one. And right now that's quite clearly "there are no human fossils from dinosaur-times because there simply were no people then".

 

[Kemosloby]

I'm not sure it's fruitful to keep going on if you're going to keep arbitrarily increasing their life-span without giving me one reason to think that is more likely than the explanation of "there just weren't humans around when there were dinosaurs".

Occam's Razor says that the over-whelming majority of the time, the answer with the smallest number of conditions required to be correct, is the right one. And right now that's quite clearly "there are no human fossils from dinosaur-times because there simply were no people then".

It could also be true, there were no human fossils because humans did not die. Just like the Bible says.

 

[Nietzsche]

It could also be true, there were no human fossils because humans did not die. Just like the Bible says.

Right. Forgive me, but I have no reason to assume we magically just started dying. It's much more likely we simply did not come into the picture far, far, far later.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

It could also be true, there were no human fossils because humans did not die. Just like the Bible says.

It could also be true that they did not exist because Lord Helix thought they where tasty. It has just as much evidence as what you are proposing

Or we can go with what was discovered through the scientific process, which by the way is why you have the technology you are reading this with, and has actually been able to predict genetic findings and fossil locations.

 

[Kemosloby]

Right. Forgive me, but I have no reason to assume we magically just started dying. It's much more likely we simply did not come into the picture far, far, far later.

There we have a difference of opinion. Especially since that good old bible is holding up so well in it's account of such difficult things.

 

[ImmortalFlame]

There we have a difference of opinion. Especially since that good old bible is holding up so well in it's account of such difficult things.

Except in its account of the origin of life, obviously.

 

[Revoltingest]

All I have to say is.....

 

[Kemosloby]

Except in its account of the origin of life, obviously.

Why, what's wrong with it?

 

[ImmortalFlame]

Why, what's wrong with it?

Well, for starters, it says birds were created before land animals, which is demonstrably wrong. Next, it says humans were created in a similar time-frame to other, contemporary animals, which is demonstrably wrong. And it says that the sun, moon and stars formed after plants and oceans, which is demonstrably wrong.

 

[Quagmire]

It could also be true, there were no human fossils because humans did not die. Just like the Bible says.

Not saying I agree with this, but that was a pretty good comeback

 

[Kenny]

It's interesting that in a free country where people pay for their own clubs, there are some people who don't want them to be free.