sublime001
Member
depends on what or who you enslave, if it's a human than that might not be a good idea, if an xbox, sure why not...
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Question for Jews, Christians and Muslims
- Thread starter Autodidact
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Vendetta
"Oscar the grouch"
Not so.
The Babi Faith came from Islam, and the Baha'i Faith arose from the Babi Faith.
But BOTH of these are independant religions not part of Islam itself, anymore than you could say that Christianity is part of Judaism!
Granted, its background included Islam, but it was never Islamic.
Peace,
Bruce
Well Bahai'ullah lived in Persia, or modern day Iran where Islam was heavily incorporated in society....I just assumed Bahai'ullah's foundation resides in the fact that he was heavily influenced in Islam. Some scholars thY I read took Bahai'ism as a heterodoxical form of Islam
Vendetta
"Oscar the grouch"
Why is it wrong for me to have a slave? What if the slave.is in agreement with his or her.living conditions and is well aware of my intentions? Explain in detail
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
O.K. so why worship a God who's morals are wrong?
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Then they're not a slave.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
I guess so, but I don't think that's the situation contemplated in scripture, and is rare enough not to be a concern.
Where do you get that from? Did you not read my posts... at all?
Vendetta
"Oscar the grouch"
Ok auto be clear when talking about slavery. Are we talking about scriptural slavery or slavery in general?
James.williamson.3
Member
we all enslave ourselves to different things and different people at different times. you may trade temporary slavery with your boss at work in order to make a small amount of money or you may enslave your time to a TV to gain entertainment. The only difference is that you agree to be a slave for a set amount of time in order to gain something.
slavery by force on the other hand is wrong because you are compromising another free will. Whether you are a theist, Atheist, or Agnostic free will is a human right.
slavery by force on the other hand is wrong because you are compromising another free will. Whether you are a theist, Atheist, or Agnostic free will is a human right.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Where do you get that from? Did you not read my posts... at all?
You say that slavery is wrong.
G-d says we may own slaves.
Therefore you say that G-d is wrong.
Please show what's wrong with my logic.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
Slavery in general, including "scriptural slavery," that is, the slavery described in the Bible, especially slavery of foreigners. Slavery of Hebrews was a hybrid with some elements of bond-servitude, and slavery of Muslims by Muslims is supposedly prohibited (although actually practiced to this day.)
James.williamson.3
Member
because the will of G-d was interpreted through man.
Man Has faults. Man May misinterpret to suite his own means.
Man Has faults. Man May misinterpret to suite his own means.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
I"m not clear. Are you saying that when God said, "You may buy slaves," He didn't actually mean that we may buy slaves? Or are you saying God was misquoted? Or something else?
James.williamson.3
Member
I am saying that man may say "God said" in order to make his own point or to get what he wants.
I am sorry my statement was unclear
I am sorry my statement was unclear
Vendetta
"Oscar the grouch"
So with my example what was wrong? I still have a slave. If I call a slave every name in the book they still agree to be my slave. So according to you, a slave is not a slave so long as they agree? Or in my scenario is the word 'slave' problematic?
PolyHedral
Superabacus Mystic
Well, a slave who agrees to be a slave isn't so much a slave as an employee.
James.williamson.3
Member
I would say that as long as you are not infringing upon their free will then it is their choice to be your slave and thus I cannot judge the matter.
but if they are being held against their will then you are violating their free will and it is wrong.
that brings up a new question
At what point does Stockholm syndrome change the equation of freewill
but if they are being held against their will then you are violating their free will and it is wrong.
that brings up a new question
At what point does Stockholm syndrome change the equation of freewill
