Quran is free of errors

[Fatihah]

your starting to give me a head-ache. the koran proves nothing except for the existence of islam.

the evidences i have cited, and the evidences that themadhair has cited, have been proven.

again, i DEMAND proof that humans are made of clay. i DEMAND proof that the human body cant be frozen. if you ignore this, then i assume you have none. well, i already know you have none, but neither is true. like i said, so many posts ago, this debate is over, and you, and all the other muslims on this thread have lost. the koran is in error. humans arent made of clay, and the human body can be frozen. just because you cant accept reality dosent make you right, it just makes you delusional.

Response: If man was not created from clay than you should have been able to prove it but that's not the case. And no one said that a human body can't be frozen so that is just a redundant statement of yours.

 

[McBell]

Response: Post 920 proves the opposite.

post #920 proves no such thing.

 

[JMorris]

Response: If man was not created from clay than you should have been able to prove it but that's not the case.

i havent had any problems with proving that humans arent made of clay. you just have problems accepting this very simple fact.

And no one said that a human body can't be frozen so that is just a redundant statement of yours.

your a liar

 

[Fatihah]

[QUOTE:JMorris]the evidence i have shown, and the evidence themadhair has shown is PROVEN BY SCIENCE. the fact that it proves nothing to you is hardly surprising.

i have asked you REPEATEDLY for PROOF of the crap you've been saying, and yet you provide NONE. i wonder why that is? me and many others on this thread have shown proof after proof that shows the things you are saying are false. and yet you dont have a single citation backing up the retarded crap you've been saying? gee i wonder why that is.

so either show PROOF of the ridiculous statements you've been making or shut up.[/QUOTE]

Response: Yes, you are repeating. That we can agree. But what you keep repeating is not true. That's the problem.

 

[JMorris]

Response: Yes, you are repeating. That we can agree. But what you keep repeating is not true. That's the problem.

then i guess we can end this debate here. you show no proof of your claims, because you have none.

have fun in that ridiculously delusional world you live in. dont step out in the rain, or you might melt.

 

[Fatihah]

[QUOTE:JMorris]then i guess we can end this debate here.


Response: Sure.

 

[themadhair]

My dog won't lick clay. Possitively hates the stuff. Now my leg? Could chew on that all day.

Fatihah - when my dog knows biology better than you then maybe you should consider waking up and joining us in the real world.

 

[Fatihah]

My dog won't lick clay. Possitively hates the stuff. Now my leg? Could chew on that all day.

Fatihah - when my dog knows biology better than you then maybe you should consider waking up and joining us in the real world.

Response: And when you stop letting your dog chew on your leg, perhaps it will help you focus better in understanding as well.

 

[themadhair]

Response: And when you stop letting your dog chew on your leg, perhaps it will help you focus better in understanding as well.

You are merely jealous that my dog knows basic biology better than you do.

 

[Fatihah]

QUOTE:gnostic


That's not proof, you're simpleton.

Proof is something that you can observed, verified, quantified and test. You're an simpleton, if you don't understand that.

Can you verify what the Qur'an say?

Response: Yes.

Quote: gnostic
Can you test it?

Response: Yes

Quote: gnostic
Can you observe and see that man is made out of clay?

Response: No. But you can't prove that man wasn't created from clay either.

Quote: gnostic
Go ask a science professor (who know about either biology or earth science) - "Is the human body is made out of clay?" and show him the relevant verse in the Qur'an.

Then you will what reaction you will get from him. You will be laughed off and humiliated because he will think you are indeed a moron, or simply faith-blinded zealous/fanatic.

If today's Muslims all think like you do, then no wonder there have been no scientific discoveries by Muslim scientists for the 5 centuries.
Response: Laughter is not proof.

 

[gnostic]

No they would laugh at you because they think would you're an ignorant fool.

And you can't prove that man was created from clay or mud, dirt or earth. And only a fool will believe that.

You say "yes", that it can be "verified" and "tested".

So where are the evidences, you simpleton?

Provide the evidences, then we can considered if what say and believe to be proof or not.

 

[Fatihah]

No they would laugh at you because they think would you're an ignorant fool.

And you can't prove that man was created from clay or mud, dirt or earth. And only a fool will believe that.

Response: But I can. The creator of man knows his creation than both you and I and anyone for that matter. So if he says that he created man from clay, it's true. It's his creation. Scientists did not create man.

 

[themadhair]

Response: But I can. The creator of man knows his creation than both you and I and anyone for that matter. So if he says that he created man from clay, it's true. It's his creation. Scientists did not create man.

So you flat out lied when you said it could be tested and verified? What a surprise - Fatihah contradicted him(her)self yet again.

You are a moron Fatihah. There is no other way to describe you after the sheer crap you have posted on this thread. Muslims should be emabarassed for you.

 

[gnostic]

Response: But I can. The creator of man knows his creation than both you and I and anyone for that matter. So if he says that he created man from clay, it's true. It's his creation. Scientists did not create man.

That's not proof. That's your opinion or belief.

Scientists did create man, and apparently neither did god, if that's all the opinion you have.

Are we made out of clay? Do we resemble clay?

As I said clay is erosion of minerals. Minerals, or clay for that matter, is not living organic matters.

If you could verify or test it, then we should be able to observe that our body are indeed made out of clay.

Is your skin, flesh, organs and bones made out of clay, simpleton?

If it is not, then you have no evidence that support the Qur'an or your mistaken belief. You're nothing but fraud, and you're Qur'an has many errors, because to date, you have proven nothing; you have only stated your mistaken belief.

 

[Fatihah]

So you flat out lied when you said it could be tested and verified? What a surprise - Fatihah contradicted him(her)self yet again.

Response: There is no lie. Only an inability to comprehend on your part.

 

[darkendless]

Response: There is no lie. Only an inability to comprehend on your part.

Your defiance is a joke. I can't believe youu're still at it. You're wrong, you lose. Your defiance is only losing you respect from members here who are sick of you ignoring their contributions because it does not align with your own.

I give up on you, to wallow in your own ignorance. You're like arguing with a brick wall, you're either too foolish, to ignorant, or just to stupid to understand the evidence presented to you.

 

[Fatihah]

[QUOTE:gnostic]That's not proof. That's your opinion or belief.

Response: It's your belief that it's my belief.

Quote: gnostic
Are we made out of clay? Do we resemble clay?

Response: What makes up clay can be found in us.

Quote: gnostic
Is your skin, flesh, organs and bones made out of clay, simpleton?

Response: Yes.

Quote: gnostic
If it is not, then you have no evidence that support the Qur'an or your mistaken belief. You're nothing but fraud, and you're Qur'an has many errors, because to date, you have proven nothing; you have only stated your mistaken belief.

Response: And yet you clearly have no proof that man was not created from clay. Yes, clearly someone is a fraud.

 

[darkendless]

Response: And yet you clearly have no proof that man was not created from clay. Yes, clearly someone is a fraud.

Hit your hand against the table.

Does it break? No, then you're not made of solid clay.

Does it change shape? No, then you're not made of mallaeble clay.

Its like arguing with an infant.

 

[Fatihah]

Your defiance is a joke. I can't believe youu're still at it. You're wrong, you lose. Your defiance is only losing you respect from members here who are sick of you ignoring their contributions because it does not align with your own.

I give up on you, to wallow in your own ignorance. You're like arguing with a brick wall, you're either too foolish, to ignorant, or just to stupid to understand the evidence presented to you.

Response: Likewise

 

[gnostic]

Response: There is no lie. Only an inability to comprehend on your part.

It is you who don't comprehend, Fatihah.

You said that "yes" to be able to verify, but you provide nothing for us to verify.

People have cut open body, both dead (in autopsy) and alive (in surgery), and there are no clay found in the body. The muscles have no clay or clay-like properties. There are no clay in organs, bones and blood.

And you said "yes" to that being "tested", then you should be able to test this today. Surgery have been done in the millions, but no bodies or body parts have been found to contain clay.

When I did science in high school, I had to cut open a rat, and I found no trace of clay. Meat that we prepare everyday as our food...well not if people are vegetarians...showed no elements of clay or clay-like substance.

So forgive me, if I say again, that only ignorants would believe in such thing written in the Qur'an, or other supposed scriptural literature.

We live in the real world, not your world of make-believe that contained djinns, fairies, ghouls and goblins, Fatihah.

"Allah says so..." Don't amount to proof. Just your blind faith.

Muslims say that Allah hold logic in high respect, but apparently it is absence in the Qur'an and in you.