Race riots in England

[England my lionheart]

Glad is a feeling and not logic, so you just confirmed his point.

But I’m not in the foxhole and in a situation where I need to be logical.

 

[ratiocinator]

For my money, the BBC has lost all credibility in the last few years. They seem to have totally bought in to the progressive "oppressed vs. oppressor" worldview. So OF COURSE, if you take the O vs. O worldview, it couldn't possibly be the immigrants that are causing the problems because "oppression".

And your subjective opinion about the BBC is relevant because.....?

 

[Secret Chief]

I disagree

So you think Starmer is more of a liar than Johnson. Seriously?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

But I’m not in the foxhole and in a situation where I need to be logical.

But you still have to answer about your claim as per being logical about refugee. You haven't been logic so far.

 

[England my lionheart]

So you think Starmer is more of a liar than Johnson. Seriously?

Absolutely.

 

[England my lionheart]

But you still have to answer about your claim as per being logical about refugee. You haven't been logic so far.

What is logic to you?.

 

[icehorse]

And your subjective opinion about the BBC is relevant because.....?

hmmm...

Well you cited them as some sort of authority, and I'm questioning their objectivity

 

[Altfish]

Wow. You are ACTUALLY serious.

Do you or do you not know the difference between immigrants and asylum seekers?

Also, are you genuinely arguing that countries just shouldn't allow ANY immigration? You think ALL IMMIGRANTS are nothing but a drain?

Is that an argument you seriously want to make?

You're am embarrassment to my country.

This is the Brexit playbook, foreigners are bad even if they are fleeing persecution.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

What is logic to you?.

Well, in a sense the base is the 3 classical laws of human thought. And then you can add all the fallacies to avoid and Agrippa's trilemma.

Then of course you end up in valid and sound as per reasoning as per deduction.

 

[Secret Chief]

Absolutely.

No wonder you voted for brexit. Johnson lied every time he opened his mouth.

 

[England my lionheart]

No wonder you voted for brexit. Johnson lied every time he opened his mouth.

Whether he lied or not doesn’t mean people were influenced by them,in the beginning he was a remoaner,he jumped on the winning horse,that’s his only achievement.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Well, in a sense the base is the 3 classical laws of human thought. And then you can add all the fallacies to avoid and Agrippa's trilemma.

Then of course you end up in valid and sound as per reasoning as per deduction.

So what is logic to you and when are you going to answer as per the question of logic and refugee's that we have going on?

 

[icehorse]

This is the Brexit playbook, foreigners are bad even if they are fleeing persecution.

I'm sincerely curious to understand how you think countries should deal with immigrants and then separately with refugees?

For example, should all countries contribute to accepting refugees?

 

[England my lionheart]

Well, in a sense the base is the 3 classical laws of human thought. And then you can add all the fallacies to avoid and Agrippa's trilemma.

Then of course you end up in valid and sound as per reasoning as per deduction.

So if you are running from Syria for example and make it to say France which is secular,you get fed and water why run further.

 

[Secret Chief]

Whether he lied or not doesn’t mean people were influenced by them,in the beginning he was a remoaner,he jumped on the winning horse,that’s his only achievement.

But you've just said Starmer "absolutely" lies more than Starmer. For starters, ask Johnson's ex-wives. He faced a 90 day ban for repeatedly lying to the Commons over partygate. You missed that I take it?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

So if you are running from Syria for example and make it to say France which is secular,you get fed and water why run further.

Why, well, that is not logic as I understand it. That is you wanting to decide for another human the reasons they have for choosing the UK over France.
If you with only logic can explain that, I will listen but why as such, is not logic. If it is, you have to unpack it.

 

[ratiocinator]

Was it ever prosecuted?

They were fined, so I guess it was.

Not true

Yes, it is true. You can check it out as an issue below (you have to switch the topic leaving EU option on at the top and switch the rest off). Before 2016, its importance had a big spike to 38% in 2011, before falling back down. It didn't really become a big issue again until after the referendum in 2016.

The most important issues facing the country

Which of the following do you think are the most important issues facing the country at this time? Please tick up to three.

yougov.co.uk

That’s democracy,a majority wins,if it wasn’t first past the post labour wouldn’t be in the position they are

And they shouldn't be. We'd have a Labour, Lib Dem, Green coalition under PR, which would be a better outcome, and more democratic.

You hit the nail on the head,the poor got zero from being in the EU,the rich of course got richer from cheap labour and priced the poor out of a job.

Obviously didn't read what I said. The poor are worse off now due to Brexit, but the rich are, as always, doing just fine. The Brexiteers who conned the poor into voting for Brexit have done fine. Nigel got his kids German passport, Dyson relocated his firm to Singapore...

 

[ratiocinator]

Well you cited them as some sort of authority, and I'm questioning their objectivity

I cited them as a news source - there are others about the same subject, if you do a search.

I'm not alone in thinking them reasonably reliable...

 

[England my lionheart]

But you've just said Starmer "absolutely" lies more than Starmer. For starters, ask Johnson's ex-wives. He faced a 90 day ban for repeatedly lying to the Commons over partygate. You missed that I take it?

No I saw that,so what.

 

[England my lionheart]

Why, well, that is not logic as I understand it. That is you wanting to decide for another human the reasons they have for choosing the UK over France.
If you with only logic can explain that, I will listen but why as such, is not logic. If it is, you have to unpack it.

I actually don’t.