Racist memes spread after false claims that immigrants kill and eat pets.

[Quagmire]

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But I thought I wasn't smart enough to actaully participate in any form of debate.

Well now, and here I was thinking you weren't capable of learning anything.

 

[Revoltingest]

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Well now, and here I was thinking you weren't capable of learning anything.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I'd rather "fall behind" nations that imprison people
for insulting each other, their leaders, or religions.
Your own speech would put you in prison in many
other countries.

The politicians in those countries often have to put up with more than they do here.
And looking over Canada's laws I definitely wouldn't be going to prison, not even county, I probably wouldn't even get fined. Probably not in the UK either. I'd even feel safe in France even though apparently one of the two necklaces I wear, the one thag is of a religious nature, would be a no out in public.

 

[Rival]

The politicians in those countries often have to put up with more than they do here.
And looking over Canada's laws I definitely wouldn't be going to prison, not even county, I probably wouldn't even get fined. Probably not in the UK either. I'd even feel safe in France even though apparently one of the two necklaces I wear, the one thag is of a religious nature, would be a no out in public.

You can wear such stuff out in public. The French regulation is for schools and other like environments. They've banned niqabs, which I think is wrong, but you can wear religious symbols in public no problem. It's just schools and some workplaces and such.

 

[Revoltingest]

The politicians in those countries often have to put up with more than they do here.

Like criticizing the royal family.
Lock'm up!

And looking over Canada's laws I definitely wouldn't be going to prison, not even county, I probably wouldn't even get fined.

Trump doesn't get elected in Canuckistan.

Probably not in the UK either. I'd even feel safe in France even though apparently one of the two necklaces I wear, the one thag is of a religious nature, would be a no out in public.

Liberals....always seeking security from
greater governmental power over us all.
Beware solutions that are worst then
the problem they try to solve.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Liberals....always seeking security from
greater governmental power over us all.
Beware solutions that are worst then
the problem they try to solve.

They score higher in freedom indexes. This fact is what ultimately convinced me that hate speech laws do not really detract from overall freedom, and we must combat and challenge such hateful speech anyways except it's not really working.

 

[Revoltingest]

They score higher in freedom indexes.

Just copying a system in another country
without considering different cultures
& different fundamental law is simplistic
& courts danger.
You have your preference, order over liberty.
I have mine, liberty over order.

This fact is what ultimately convinced me that hate speech laws do not really detract from overall freedom, and we must combat and challenge such hateful speech anyways except it's not really working.

It works for me.
You just don't face the risks of increasing
government's power over our speech.
I find that our current limits work.
I can call you a "poopy headed Jesus freak".
But I can't call for your execution.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Like criticizing the royal family.
Lock'm up!

You don't get locked up just for criticizing the royal family. Lots of them do it.

Why the British Royal Family Gets So Much Hate - And How It Might Change Forever

The British Royal Family has a divisive history and standing in the UK and across the world. But why is that, and how might it soon change?

www.goalcast.com

 

[Revoltingest]

You don't get locked up just for criticizing the royal family. Lots of them do it.

Why the British Royal Family Gets So Much Hate - And How It Might Change Forever

The British Royal Family has a divisive history and standing in the UK and across the world. But why is that, and how might it soon change?

www.goalcast.com

I like how you selected a country where that's legal.
Not one of the others.
Liberals....believing that what they dream will become
reality...never any unanticipated consequences.

 

[Argentbear]

I find that our current limits work.

But not so well for those targeted by hate speech.

 

[Revoltingest]

But not so well for those targeted by hate speech.

There are cost to all policies.
I'd rather be targeted with hate speech by
Christians who loathe atheists, than have
their speech curtailed by Uncle Sam's
threat of prison.

I spent a little time in Germany. There, people
buy lawsuit insurance because they sue each
other over insulting each other. **** that ****.
As a result, I opened a vein, & let all the German
blood run out.

 

[Argentbear]

There are cost to all policies.
I'd rather be targeted with hate speech by
Christians who loathe atheists, than have
their speech curtailed by Uncle Sam's
threat of prison.

what exactly do Christians say about atheists that would be hate speech?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Just copying a system in another country
without considering different cultures
& different fundamental law is simplistic
& courts danger.

America isn't that unique or special.

You have your preference, order over liberty.
I have mine, liberty over order.

My preference is doing away with speech that threatens peace and the rule of law. You have to have those things for a stable society, and things like the Jews,Africans, Catholics,queers, Haitians are stealing and eating your pets (aka family) at best lead to societal and systemic oppression and discrimination amd threatens peace and the rule of law as people feel more emboldened to take actions of their own.

 

[Revoltingest]

what exactly do Christians say about atheists that would be hate speech?

"You're going to Hell!"
"You're a tool of Satan!"

I support their right to say such.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I like how you selected a country where that's legal.
Not one of the others.
Liberals....believing that what they dream will become
reality...never any unanticipated consequences.

Well, for one, I'm not a Liberal and two I already said we needn't reinvent the wheel.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"You're going to Hell!"
"You're a tool of Satan!"

I support their right to say such.

Amd that's why atheist aren't allowed to hold office in multiple states despite the Constitutional prohibitions against those tests of faith.

 

[Revoltingest]

America isn't that unique or special.

Neither is it identical.

My preference is doing away with speech that threatens peace and the rule of law.

Your idea of what threatens peace & the rule of
law will differ from the various critters inhabiting
DC at various times.

You have to have those things for a stable society, and things like the Jews,Africans, Catholics,queers, Haitians are stealing and eating your pets (aka family) at best lead to societal and systemic oppression and discrimination amd threatens peace and the rule of law as people feel more emboldened to take actions of their own.

Do you advocate prosecuting people for
saying what Trump said about Haitians?

 

[Argentbear]

"You're going to Hell!"
"You're a tool of Satan!"

I support their right to say such.

those are not examples of hate speech

 

[Revoltingest]

Well, for one, I'm not a Liberal and two I already said we needn't reinvent the wheel.

I didn't say you were.
I know you deny that label.
So I eschew calling you one.
But you lean that way far far more than do I.
So at times, you stampede with that herd.
Hence my general comment.

 

[Revoltingest]

those are not examples of hate speech

It's all in the eye of the beholder.
In Germany, "sweeping slurs", eg, misogyny,
will invite a police raid to one's home.

German police conduct raids against people suspected of posting misogynistic hate speech online

German authorities have carried out raids across Germany against people suspected of posting misogynistic hate speech online.

apnews.com

You really don't know how oppressive such
laws could be here in USA under the various
regimes that come & go.