Republican House Whip Shot!

[esmith]

And Hodgkinson's weapon of choice? Allegedly an M4 Assault Carbine. Why? because assault weapons like this, with their clips of 20-30 rounds and 3-round burst feature, is what every hunter and protector of his domicile needs. Well, that and what it does to one's testosterone level.
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Looks like the no nothings are at it again if this is being reported by the media.
You do realize don't you the the M4 with a 3 round burst mode is illegal under Title 1 of the GCA of 1968 for a civilian to own; it is a post 1986 weapon.
Also where are you getting your information from.

 

[Skwim]

Looks like the no nothings are at it again if this is being reported by the media.
You do realize don't you the the M4 with a 3 round burst mode is illegal under Title 1 of the GCA of 1968 for a civilian to own; it is a post 1986 weapon.
Also where are you getting your information from.

esmith, 1 minute ago

The "3 round burst" comment was removed about eight minutes ago. Please stay up with the postings. Thank you.

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[suncowiam]

Just to point out, our entire nation was birthed through violent revolt against oppressive government, after the "proper process" failed. The end of an era is often a bloody affair, and fate has a way of catching up to people.

Straw hat. Pizza served fresh from the oven.

Very different times with very different laws in effect. Citizens now have much more rights then their colonial counterparts. For one, the constitution wasn't created until after what you mentioned.

When one resorts to violence, it just means who can be the most violent. Seriously? Do we really want to go down that road? Let's think about that for a second.

 

[esmith]

The "3 round burst" comment was removed about eight minutes ago. Please stay up with the postings.

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Then do your research before you post @Skwim

 

[sun rise]

One of my current efforts is to think how I'd be reacting if it were Democrats who had been shot by someone in the alt-right or a Muslim doing the shooting. It's a struggle given my instincts, but I think trying to be even handed is worth the internal battle.

 

[Skwim]

Then do your research before you post @Skwim

Because you can't read updated posts? Okay, I'll try to keep your limitations in mind.

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[leibowde84]

And I was making a comment to a poster for making comments about some Republicans being shot on a baseball field, with made up assumptions, while it was still unknown exactly who had been shot and who had done the shooting.

I don't understand the point of your response to me.

Would you like go back and address what I was actually responding to?

Republican lawmakers were already jumping to conclusions. You are right, though, two wrongs don't make a right. No one should be pointing fingers about this right now.

 

[leibowde84]

You may be on something here. The shooter was a big time Bernie supporter so he definitely had a mental illness. This could be a yardstick for determining who should have a weapon going forward.

Well, at least he's not a Trump supporter. That would mean he would be a complete moron.

 

[Grumpuss]

Just another day in America.

I think the shooter may be a disgruntled veteran. The GOP just passed a couple veteran bills (which probably don't help veterans)

Nah, he's a crazed anti-Trump guy who lived to post venomous things about Trump and the Republicans on social media.

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It's disgusting that Leftists have seized upon this moment to try to turn it into a gun control opportunity. The truth is that in this instance, guns saved lives. All sides agree that only the presence of the Capitol Police managed to prevent a massacre. They shot this guy dead before he killed numerous unarmed targets.

 

[leibowde84]

Nah, he's a crazed anti-Trump guy who lived to post venomous things about Trump and the Republicans on social media.

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It's disgusting that Leftists have seized upon this moment to try to turn it into a gun control opportunity. The truth is that in this instance, guns saved lives. All sides agree that only the presence of the Capitol Police managed to prevent a massacre. They shot this guy dead before he killed numerous unarmed targets.

Who has ever argued that police officers shouldn't have guns? Either way, arguments can be made both ways. If no one was able to have guns except for the authorities, this wouldn't have happened. But, yes, police officers and security having guns probably stopped this from escalating.

The real issue is how divided this country is that this would happen. Trump has to step up and reach out to the left ... at least attempt to unite everyone. An incident like this, as sad as it is, can be a useful tool in this.

 

[Grumpuss]

Who has ever argued that police officers shouldn't have guns? Either way, arguments can be made both ways. If no one was able to have guns except for the authorities, this wouldn't have happened. But, yes, police officers and security having guns probably stopped this from escalating.

This guy had his targets outgunned. He had a rifle with a decent sized magazine, while the security detail had only a couple of pistols. The guy probably didn't expect his targets to have any security at all, and in fact they would not have, had Scalise not been a member of the House leadership group. We got lucky here.

This is not a valid opportunity for a gun control argument. Recent terrorist events have shown that guns aren't necessary for carnage.

The real issue is how divided this country is that this would happen. Trump has to step up and reach out to the left ... at least attempt to unite everyone. An incident like this, as sad as it is, can be a useful tool in this.

WHAT? You are justifying the shooter, by buying into the same rhetoric he was using as a basis for his attack. That's like blaming a rape victim for her violent rape, sir.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Sounds like a Democrat with a lot of attitude. We all know the DNC loves its use of violence as long as it is done in their own name.

But bantering aside this is sad, especially considering the tension between the two parties and more specifically the people. So much infighting over little to nothing because the Democrats could not come to grips with the society they created. They keep encouraging so many mentally unstable people like transgenders and emotionally damaged youth. This is not how you build a base and this is not how you garner support because in reality there will always be people left behind and disconnected from society, even if it is not their own fault it cannot be helped in all cases.

 

[leibowde84]

WHAT? You are justifying the shooter, by buying into the same rhetoric he was using as a basis for his attack. That's like blaming a rape victim for her violent rape, sir.

That's not true. I am not justifying the shooter at all. There is no excuse for what he did.

But, there is a problem in this country. There has to be more discussion rather than just hateful rhetoric coming out of the white house. The President has the obligation to lead by example. It is Trump that can change the tone. If he starts reaching out to the left, things will change for the better. But, our leader has to lead.

 

[leibowde84]

Sounds like a Democrat with a lot of attitude. We all know the DNC loves its use of violence as long as it is done in their own name.

But bantering aside this is sad, especially considering the tension between the two parties and more specifically the people. So much infighting over little to nothing because the Democrats could not come to grips with the society they created. They keep encouraging so many mentally unstable people like transgenders and emotionally damaged youth. This is not how you build a base and this is not how you garner support because in reality there will always be people left behind and disconnected from society, even if it is not their own fault it cannot be helped in all cases.

This is a clear example of what is wrong with our country right now. Insults and divisiveness rather than trying to reach out to the other side.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Never show up with a whip to a gun fight.

 

[Grumpuss]

Sounds like a Democrat with a lot of attitude. We all know the DNC loves its use of violence as long as it is done in their own name.

But bantering aside this is sad, especially considering the tension between the two parties and more specifically the people. So much infighting over little to nothing because the Democrats could not come to grips with the society they created. They keep encouraging so many mentally unstable people like transgenders and emotionally damaged youth. This is not how you build a base and this is not how you garner support because in reality there will always be people left behind and disconnected from society, even if it is not their own fault it cannot be helped in all cases.

Well said. I worry what will happen, if and when the Trump probes fail to remove Trump. Frankly, I'm surprised these sort of attacks haven't been committed already.

That's not true. I am not justifying the shooter at all. There is no excuse for what he did.

But, there is a problem in this country. There has to be more discussion rather than just hateful rhetoric coming out of the white house. The President has the obligation to lead by example. It is Trump that can change the tone. If he starts reaching out to the left, things will change for the better. But, our leader has to lead.

Look at you. You continue to justify the shooter's action, because you keep blaming Trump. Trump's the guy in power, the Republicans are the party in majority, that's just fact. What they do or say is never, ever, justification for something like this to happen.

You don't like the guys in control, then you use the tools of democracy to change them out in the elections of 2018 and 2020. At this moment, everyone in opposition to Trump and the Republican Party should reexamine their level of vitriol and see if perhaps their rhetoric went a bit too far and contributed to inciting violence against our elected officials. Saying things like, "Well this is because Trump..." or attempting to turn this into an opportunity for a gun control argument is just more of the same nastiness.

 

[sun rise]

Change a few words and...

We all know the RNC loves its use of violence as long as it is done in their own name.

But bantering aside this is sad, especially considering the tension between the two parties and more specifically the people. So much infighting over little to nothing because the Republicans could not come to grips with the society they created. They keep encouraging so many mentally unstable people like alt-rightists and emotionally damaged youth. This is not how you build a base and this is not how you garner support because in reality there will always be people left behind and disconnected from society, even if it is not their own fault it cannot be helped in all cases.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

They keep encouraging so many mentally unstable people like transgenders

Excuse me?

 

[Callisto]

Nah, he's a crazed anti-Trump guy who lived to post venomous things about Trump and the Republicans on social media.

Link

It's disgusting that Leftists have seized upon this moment to try to turn it into a gun control opportunity. The truth is that in this instance, guns saved lives. All sides agree that only the presence of the Capitol Police managed to prevent a massacre. They shot this guy dead before he killed numerous unarmed targets.

Not nearly as disgusting as ring wingnuts claiming Sandy Hook was a hoax and "if" it did happen then it could have been avoided if more grade school teachers carried firearms, before the bodies had cooled. Get back to us when the libtards claim it's a GOP hoax to argue for more lax gun laws or mocks the victimized politicians for relying on security details instead of caring their own guns given they insist on making them readily accessible to every other asshat with an axe to grind.

 

[Callisto]

One of my current efforts is to think how I'd be reacting if it were Democrats who had been shot by someone in the alt-right or a Muslim doing the shooting. It's a struggle given my instincts, but I think trying to be even handed is worth the internal battle.

If anyone feels they'd have more or less sympathy based on the victims' political parties then they're part of the problem and it's no wonder why shîte politicians continue to get reelected.