Rittenhouse. What an American Hero. Will Biden apologise?

[ChristineM]

We prefer "fanatic" or "loser" to "nazi".

Not sure the majority of the internet agrees with you, there are far more grammar nazi memes than grammar fanatic. But hey, if thats what helps you feel good then by all means, call yourself what you want, it know i do

 

[Yerda]

I was just thinking Kyle should get a medal the other day. He performed a great public service by removing such criminal scum from our midsts, as well as showing great bravery and care for the community when others weren't. I hope he becomes very rich from the lawsuits, at least..

Isn't that supposed to be Jesus in your profile picture?

 

[Suave]

Lol, you serious? The Proud Boys' leader is black and Latino, and the guys Kyle killed or injured were all white.

Just because the Proud Boys leader is a person of color, does not mean there is not a prevalence of white supremacy in the rank and file of the Proud Boys. Not only did Kyle Rittenhouse have a cordial meeting with Proud Boys, he is also an avowed supporter of Blue Lives Matter, this group supports discriminatory policing and racial profiling.

 

[Quagmire]

Just because the Proud Boys leader is a person of color, does not mean there is not a prevalence of white supremacy in the rank and file of the Proud Boys. Not only did Kyle Rittenhouse have a cordial meeting with Proud Boys, he is also an avowed supporter of Blue Lives Matter, this group supports discriminatory policing and racial profiling.

According to wiki:

Finally, some state that supporters of Blue Lives Matter are intentionally or unintentionally supporting a system of discriminatory policing and racial profiling.[5]

"Some state". That makes this an opinion.

Your statement: "Blue Lives Matter, this group supports discriminatory policing and racial profiling" presents the idea as if it were a proven fact, or as if it were an openly declared part of their manifesto, which is disingenuous.

 

[Suave]

According to wiki:

"Some state". That makes this an opinion.

Your statement: "Blue Lives Matter, this group supports discriminatory policing and racial profiling" presents the idea as if it were a proven fact, or as if it were an openly declared part of their manifesto, which is disingenuous.

As far as I know, Blue Lives Matter have never condemned discriminatory policing and racial profiling.

 

[Quagmire]

As far as I know, Blue Lives Matter have never condemned discriminatory policing and racial profiling.

"As far as I know".

As far as I know you've never posted anything condemning animal abuse. Should it be assumed that you're in favor of kicking puppies?

Their organization wasn't created to address those issues. It doesn't automatically follow that they support those practices.

 

[Debater Slayer]

I was just thinking Kyle should get a medal the other day. He performed a great public service by removing such criminal scum from our midsts, as well as showing great bravery and care for the community when others weren't. I hope he becomes very rich from the lawsuits, at least..

I don't think it's citizens' job to "remove such criminal scum from [their] midst" by using guns while being insufficiently trained. If it were, law enforcement and the rule of law would be unnecessary.

Such comments are bizarre to see coming from people who support the party of "law and order" that railed against antifa not long ago on the grounds that they were supporting lawlessness. I suppose even the application of a principle like this is subject to partisan preferences.

 

[Suave]

"As far as I know".

As far as I know you've never posted anything condemning animal abuse. Should it be assumed that you're in favor of kicking puppies?

Their organization wasn't created to address those issues. It doesn't automatically follow that they support those practices.

I condemn the practice of kicking puppies. There, please let the record show I don't support the practice of kicking puppies. Now how difficult would it be for Blue Lives Matter to issue a public statement condemning discriminatory policing and racial profiling? Why can't Blue Lives Matter call for the abolition of such systemic racism in policing?

 

[SkepticThinker]

You can all see where this is going, can't you? Meet your new poster boy for "self defense" when you kill somebody. He appears, from the interview, to already be boning up on the "talking points."

And who here wants to bet he won't be at CPAC? A star, in fact? Anybody?

Republicans are like everybody else -- they build their "heroes" on the same model as they see themselves.

America won't be getting any better as a result of this case, that's for sure.

This is truly bizarre to me.

Now we've got Republican members of Congress offering the guy intern jobs - the guy whose only "qualification" for that job is apparently killing people the Right doesn't like. What is happening to America?

 

[SkepticThinker]

I was just thinking Kyle should get a medal the other day. He performed a great public service by removing such criminal scum from our midsts, as well as showing great bravery and care for the community when others weren't. I hope he becomes very rich from the lawsuits, at least..

Okay so a vote in favour of vigilantism?

 

[Debater Slayer]

This is truly bizarre to me.

Now we've got Republican members of Congress offering the guy intern jobs - the guy whose only "qualification" for that job is apparently killing people the Right doesn't like. What is happening to America?

When the politicians in suits are that morally bankrupt and irrational, I don't think it's a surprise that some people feel like rioting is their only way of being heard. That's not to say vandalizing innocent people's property or harming them is acceptable either; it's just that the whole situation is a vicious cycle that doesn't look like it will resolve until both political camps do less finger-pointing and more thinking about actual solutions.

 

[ecco]

I don't know what it was like anywhere else but I'll tell you something; the riots we had here in 2020-- including the 25+ people who were killed --- didn't get anywhere near the media play the Kyle Incident did.

I guess you are right. I didn't see anything in the media that discussed a riot in which 25 people were killed. I don't know where "here" is, so I can't focus my search on that one area while looking for a riot in which 25 people were killed.

Perhaps you could show which riot in which 25 people were killed so that I could look into it more deeply.

 

[Quagmire]

I condemn the practice of kicking puppies. There, please let the record show I don't support the practice of kicking puppies.

Sure, once you're cornered on the issue.

And I noticed you didn't say anything against drowning kittens or whipping horses . . .

Now how difficult would it be for Blue Lives Matter to issue a public statement condemning discriminatory policing and racial profiling? Why can't Blue Lives Matter call for the abolition of such systemic racism in policing?

Probably for the same reason the Salvation Army doesn't speak out against poaching elephants or St. Jude doesn't raise funds to save the rainforests: because those aren't the issues their organization was created to address.

On the other hand, I'm sure if you sent an email to the chair of Blue Lives Matter asking him where his org stands on discriminatory policing and racial profiling, he'd probably tell you he was against them.

 

[Suave]

If we believe him, he was there as an unlicensed, untrained, underage armed security guard.

He's even said that he and his buddy understood that the car dealership would pay them, so - again, if we believe him - we can't even say that he was there as a volunteer.

Wisconsin requires security guards to be licensed. The state requires a special, higher level of license for armed security guards. Kyle Rittenhouse wouldn't even be capable of meeting the license requirements for another 3 years, even if he took all the required training and passed the drug screening and background checks.

He was there illegally.

If Kyle Rittenhouse were there to defend Car Source property, why did he leave the premise? Hmm?

 

[Suave]

Sure, once you're cornered on the issue.

And I noticed you didn't say anything against drowning kittens or whipping horses . . .



Probably for the same reason the Salvation Army doesn't speak out against poaching elephants or St. Jude doesn't raise funds to save the rainforests: because those aren't the issues their organization was created to address.

On the other hand, I'm sure if you sent an email to the chair of Blue Lives Matter asking him where his org stands on discriminatory policing and racial profiling, he'd probably tell you he was against them.

I'm against any sort of animal cruelty. I'd very much like Blue Lives Matter issuing a blanket statement condemning any sort of systemic racism in policing. .

 

[Quagmire]

I guess you are right. I didn't see anything in the media that discussed a riot in which 25 people were killed. I don't know where "here" is, so I can't focus my search on that one area while looking for a riot in which 25 people were killed.

Perhaps you could show which riot in which 25 people were killed so that I could look into it more deeply.

I was talking about the death toll of the 2020 riots combined, and here:
2020–2021 United States racial unrest - Wikipedia
(box on the right under "casualties")

Also:
At least 25 Americans were killed during protests and political unrest in 2020 | Protest | The Guardian


The fact that you're an American and this is all news to you says something.

 

[ecco]

If Kyle Rittenhouse were there to defend Car Source property, why did he leave the premise? Hmm?

Hunting?

 

[Quagmire]

I'm against any sort of animal cruelty. I'd very much like Blue Lives Matter issuing a blanket statement condemning any sort of systemic racism in policing. .

Then ask them. You had to be asked, right?

 

[Debater Slayer]

I'm against any sort of animal cruelty. I'd very much like Blue Lives Matter issuing a blanket statement condemning any sort of systemic racism in policing. .

I don't think the movement is focused on that; it's a largely reactionary movement that was founded in response to another movement (BLM).

It would be fine if it were only about protecting officers' lives, but their motion to classify crimes against officers as "hate crimes" tells you a lot of what you need to know about their reactionary and deeply prejudiced agenda. It's not a coincidence that a lot of the movement's supporters also align with Trump and far-right extremism.

 

[Quagmire]

I don't think the movement is focused on that; it's a largely reactionary movement that was founded in response to another movement (BLM).

It would be fine if it were only about protecting officers' lives, but their motion to classify crimes against officers as "hate crimes" tells you a lot of what you need to know about their reactionary and deeply prejudiced agenda. It's not a coincidence that a lot of the movement's supporters also align with Trump and far-right extremism.

Reactionary, yes, but I don't see how their wanting to classify attacks targeting police as hate crimes indicative of a "deeply prejudiced agenda".

And most blue color workers in the US are conservative, police probably more so, so it shouldn't be a surprise to find Trump supporters and far-right extremists among their ranks. I mean really: where else would they be?