Alcohol is not dangerous.
I recall my beloved uncle giving me glasses of sparkling wine at all parties.
I was 10.
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School board meeting in North Carolina about a book
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I recall my beloved uncle giving me glasses of sparkling wine at all parties.
I was 10.
I don't think anyone should be forced to read this book, and I don't think anyone should be prevented from reading this book.
I didn't hear anything in that video that was incorrect, or perverted, or dangerous.
I have never heard any convincing argument that children are actually harmed by material like this. It just seems to be the assumption, but no evidence is ever provided.
That's exactly like saying "guns aren't dangerous".
But when people gain possession, the people can & do become dangerous.
Also, recent research is showing that alcohol damages health more than previously thought.
Even a Little Alcohol Can Harm Your Health (Published 2023)
Recent research makes it clear that any amount of drinking can be detrimental. Here’s why you may want to cut down on your consumption beyond Dry January.
That explains a few things.I recall my beloved uncle giving me glasses of sparkling wine at all parties.
I was 10.
All Europeans...I am not the only one.
Do you think Bavarian fathers don't give a beer to their kids on Oktoberfest?
Or do you think I didn't buy a Limoncello liqueur bottle in Sorrento, on a school trip? I was 12
Alcohol is not dangerous.
I recall my beloved uncle giving me glasses of sparkling wine at all parties.
I was 10.
Three questions.That's exactly like saying "guns aren't dangerous".
But when people gain possession, the people can & do become dangerous.
Also, recent research is showing that alcohol damages health more than previously thought.
Even a Little Alcohol Can Harm Your Health (Published 2023)
Recent research makes it clear that any amount of drinking can be detrimental. Here’s why you may want to cut down on your consumption beyond Dry January.www.nytimes.com
That explains a few things.
How many children are killed by guns?
How many underage children are killed by drinking alcohol?
How many school children are killed by a book?
I think the whole repressive attitude of the religious right, and their hang ups on sex and nudity, just make young people more curious about the forbidden fruit. That prohibition can surely backfire and any exposure to a naked body could become sexual since young people go through puberty and have increasing evels of hormones in their blood. The whole attitude of ignoring sexuality and urges never works. Look at Sarah palin's daughter who got knocked up twice outside of marriage. If these far right wingers want young people to be respsonsible they need to support children being educated on WHAT there is to be resposible for.
Alcohol consumption is being re-thought
based upon recent research.
I started my own son drinking beer at a
young age. But we do moderation.
No tobacco though. No one here smokes.
But you Europeans....
On my July trip to Germany to get an engine,
we marveled at how cigarette machines still
existed there. We hadn't seen one in decades!
It's a matter of ages.
What about just making that book available for 14 year olds only?
I've not quantified such things.
BTW, your 2nd question is inadequate.
Children die not just from drinking alcohol,
but also from being in car accidents due
to someone else's drinking.
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Curious George
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What basis do you have for drawing the line at 14?
The book was designed for children on the cusp and beginning puberty. I think that you would need some reasoning to suggest that the material isn’t appropriate. I understand that you feel it is not appropriate. And, if you have your own children, then they may be sufficient reason for you to conclude that your own children shouldn’t read that book. It is not, even then, sufficient for you to override professional opinions to allow other children access to that book. Do you have any reasoning beyond your feeling that it is inappropriate?
Sand Dancer
Currently catless
Alcohol is a forbidden fruit in the US, so people use it as a way to rebel. To make it normal, like with nudity, it doesn't get used to shock people. The US and its puritan past will surely ruin us.Alcohol is not dangerous.
I recall my beloved uncle giving me glasses of sparkling wine at all parties.
I was 10.
Why restrict it?
Would that forbidden knowledge lead to profligacy, libertinism, & godlessness?
What about the third question? Any thoughts on that?
It's up to the parents. If they want to give that book to fifth graders, they can give it to them. It's their children, after all.
Btw..I used to play with Barbies at ten.
I had no idea of what sex was.
Sounds like a book like this would have been very useful to you.
Although I've not researched it for a
quantitative answer, I'll I bet the Bible
& Koran have killed many children.
I think we'd have to have a discussion about age appropriateness.
Most children, imo, lack the maturity of mind to deal responsibility with this knowledge.
Kids are still learning that the consequences of their actions can effects them adversely in ways through out the rest of their life.
You simply can't say every child is ready for this and will be able to act responsibly. Maybe some could but enough won't that it is not worth the risk.
Denying children such information can also
lead to actions with adverse consequences.
But to you point, informing them about how
to be responsible would be useful.
The fundies will hate that too, eh.
Sure, we should have open discussions on it.
That book contains thorough information about contraception.
Do you really think that prepubescents need that kind of information?