Should ex-Muslims be killed for renouncing their religion?

[ThePainefulTruth]

NBC is reporting that a Saudi man has been sentenced to death for apostasy:

An Islamic court in Saudi Arabia has sentenced a man to death for renouncing his Muslim faith, the English-language daily Saudi Gazette reported on Tuesday. The man, who is aged in his 20s, posted an online video ripping up a copy of Islam's holy book, the Quran, and hitting it with a shoe, the newspaper reported.

The Saudi Gazette has more details:

The General Court has sentenced to death a young Saudi man in his 20s for denouncing Islam as his faith and various other acts of blasphemy, Al-Sharq reported.
A source from the court reported that the convict documented his apostasy by capturing a video and posting it on the social networking site Keek.
The source said: “In the video he cursed God, Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) and his daughter Fatimah and ripped a copy of the Holy Qur’an and hit it with a shoe.
“The death sentence was issued after his apostasy was proven.”

"Other". All those who use violence to institute Sharia as the Koran demands that all Muslims do, or ANY theocracy, should be answered with as much violence as necessary to stop them.

 

[Parsimony]

Its a religion based on justice. This apostate deserves the death penalty.
His death will be clear warning to apostates that wants to follow his ''heroic'' path.

Can you present any objective argument for why an apostate deserves the death penalty? Or would your only answer be "because I believe in Islam" or something along those same lines? Would you consider it unfair if, in another country, residents were given the death penalty if they converted from whatever the state religion is to Islam? If so, then you've set yourself up a nice little double standard there.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Can you present any objective argument for why an apostate deserves the death penalty? Or would your only answer be "because I believe in Islam" or something along those same lines? Would you consider it unfair if, in another country, residents were given the death penalty if they converted from whatever the state religion is to Islam? If so, then you've set yourself up a nice little double standard there.

Its treason.

Anyways, i gave my personal input on the apostasy topics. Peace

 

[Kirran]

Its treason.

Anyways, i gave my personal input on the apostasy topics. Peace

If I decided that all Hindus who left Hinduism, perhaps to become Muslim, should be killed, what would be your thoughts on this?

 

[gsa]

If I decided that all Hindus who left Hinduism, perhaps to become Muslim, should be killed, what would be your thoughts on this?

Warlike Islamophobia.

 

[psychoslice]

Any filthy religion that believes you should be killed for anything, is poison to the those who believe in such filth .

 

[Kirran]

No i believe this because christians left the pure monotheistic path of Noah,Abraham, Moses and Jesus. Jews disbelieve in the prophets sent by Allah. So in both groups there is something that makes their faith incomplete.

Maybe your faith is incomplete, because you haven't accepted Jesus' divinity. Or maybe it's incomplete because you've renounced the old gods. Or because you don't make sacrifices to Cthulhu. Who knows?

 

[psychoslice]

Maybe your faith is incomplete, because you haven't accepted Jesus' divinity. Or maybe it's incomplete because you've renounced the old gods. Or because you don't make sacrifices to Cthulhu. Who knows?

and so you know all this ?.

 

[Kirran]

and so you know all this ?.

No.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

Can you present any objective argument for why an apostate deserves the death penalty? Or would your only answer be "because I believe in Islam" or something along those same lines? Would you consider it unfair if, in another country, residents were given the death penalty if they converted from whatever the state religion is to Islam? If so, then you've set yourself up a nice little double standard there.

There's no such thing as secularism in Islam. To Muslims, they are part of a religious nation. So if they control a government (theocracy), it would be treason to abandon Islam. That's just how they look at it.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

If I decided that all Hindus who left Hinduism, perhaps to become Muslim, should be killed, what would be your thoughts on this?

Thats your belief, if u believed so.


But we would protect those who became muslims and left Shirk.
We wouldnt hand them over to mushrikiin, unless the land is ruled by the people of shirk. In that case, they will fall as martyrs.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

Maybe your faith is incomplete, because you haven't accepted Jesus' divinity. Or maybe it's incomplete because you've renounced the old gods. Or because you don't make sacrifices to Cthulhu. Who knows?

Maybe a person whose hearts is full of doubts will think like that

 

[Kirran]

Maybe a person whose hearts is full of doubts will think like that

As a Christian would say if I referenced Islam to them there.

 

[Kirran]

Thats your belief, if u believed so.


But we would protect those who became muslims and left Shirk.
We wouldnt hand them over to mushrikiin, unless the land is ruled by the people of shirk. In that case, they will fall as martyrs.

But you don't think it would be justified me killing them?

So why's it justified to kill a Muslim who becomes a Hindu?

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

But you don't think it would be justified me killing them?

So why's it justified to kill a Muslim who becomes a Hindu?

Its your religion.
However if the ex-hindu seeks protection in muslim country, he gets that.

 

[fantome profane]

Its treason.

Anyways, i gave my personal input on the apostasy topics. Peace

I think this is completely dishonest. Treason involves more than just insults, it must involve some kind of act intended to violently overthrow a government.

Do you think someone should get the death penalty just for insulting their country? Let's say an American (or ex American) puts out a video where they insult the U.S. They burn the flag, defecate on the constitution, say incredibly offensive things about the nation and the government. Should that warrant the death penalty?

No, there is no comparison to treason you could make that would justify the barbaric practice of killing apostates.

 

[Kirran]

Its your religion.
However if the ex-hindu seeks protection in muslim country, he gets that.

Would it be fair for me to harbour ex-Muslims in my hypothetical violent-Hindu country?

 

[Parsimony]

Its treason.

Anyways, i gave my personal input on the apostasy topics. Peace

Would it also be treason for a person to abandon a state religion that isn't Islam?

 

[Theweirdtophat]

I don't believe this is a contradiction. God can't force you to behave but He sure can punish you if you don't.

"If it had been thy Lord's will, they would all have believed,- all who are on earth!"

If it had been his will, meaning, Allah can force others, but chooses not to, according to the Quran anyway.

 

[Muffled]

No, there isn't one true practice, because interpretations vary. I agree.



The latter is a little less absurd to me, but still not valid.

I think it is more likely that one does not have to be a Supreme Court Justice to interpret the constitution.

I believe any Christian can interpret the Qu'ran better than a Muslim because of the guidance of the Holy Spirit which means the guidance of God.