So, There Has Been Outcry About How "The Left Promotes Victimhood Culture!"...

[tytlyf]

That's an interesting standard of guilt.
You remind me of good ole Poyuan Wei (around 1:40)....
China’s Andy Rooney Has Some Funny Opinions About How Great The Chinese Government Is

Evidence doesn't mean guilty. What's going on now is very serious.

 

[Quetzal]

That's an interesting standard of guilt.

He didn't say it was a benchmark of guilt. Instead, it is probable cause to continue. Which I believe is pretty substantial when the defendant is the POTUS.

 

[Revoltingest]

He didn't say it was a benchmark of guilt.

No....but we can smell his desire for, & certainty of it.
(It smells like cheese, but with less cheese.)

 

[Quetzal]

No....but we can smell his desire for, & certainty of it.
(It smells like cheese, but with less cheese.)

So? One can have internal dialogues and desires all they want. In the setting of this discussion, however, it is not a talking point.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

United we stand, divided we fall. I think Trump is trying to bring America together. Can't we all just come together and love Trump?

I just got the mental image of Republican Congressmen stamping on the heads of American LGBTs, blacks, Hispanics & Muslims while simultaneously uttering this exact phrase.

This should be made into a satirical cartoon. Oh sorry, Americans can still make satirical cartoons of the Dear Leader, can't they?

 

[Jeremiahcp]

No....but we can smell his desire for, & certainty of it.
(It smells like cheese, but with less cheese.)

You didn't even need any evidence to call for an investigation of the Obama wiretapping.

 

[Revoltingest]

So? One can have internal dialogues and desires all they want. In the setting of this discussion, however, it is not a talking point.

Interestingly vague.
Still, an investigation has no significance until it's concluded.

 

[Revoltingest]

You didn't even need any evidence to call for an investigation of the Obama wiretapping.

I didn't call for one.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

I didn't call for one.

Again, where there's smoke there might be fire.
This is why an investigation is in order.

"Trump falsely accuses Obama of wiretapping his phone"

 

[Revoltingest]

"Trump falsely accuses Obama of wiretapping his phone"

That is just one quote from that thread.

That is not me calling for one (hence my wimpy passive voice).
I don't call for one of Trump either.
But both investigations are "in order", ie, something less than necessary, but useful in quelling quarrels.

I was unclear before.
I'm glad you brought it up.

 

[suncowiam]

I don't see the political agenda of the White House shifting much with the removal of Trump. However, I doubt Pence would be the national and international embarrassment Trump is, and Pence would be a lot better for our foreign relations. If Trump does remain in office I think his buffoonery will help the Dems take Congress back.

Of course all that is really moot, as an unfit President should be removed, especially if Trump is guilty of obstruction of justice.

We need Trump out. Let Pence give it a shot. As a country, we just need a person that can do that job. Country first, right now.

I'll let the democrats give it another shot in 2020. They failed miserably and I voted for them.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

That is not me calling for one.
I don't call for one of Trump either.
But both investigations are "in order", ie, something less than necessary, but useful in quelling quarrels.

Ah, playing the hide and seek with the semantics again.

 

[Revoltingest]

Ah, playing the hide and seek with the semantics again.

Just helping you understand the nuance.
If I call for something, it's more forceful than merely being "in order".

 

[Stevicus]

Can't take a joke I see.

Only if they're funny.

 

[Nakosis]

... but then there's this:



It seems that so much of right-wing politics has inadvertently made it clear that it is a self-parodying, hypocritical circus act. Do many of Trump's supporters really believe him when he says things like the above?

I wouldn't exactly call Trump right-wing.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

What was that Trump said about how blindly his supporters follow him. . . .

Oh ya, I remember now. "I could shoot somebody."

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Just helping you understand the nuance.
If I call for something, it's more forceful than merely being "in order".

What happened is that you just realized you put your foot in your mouth and you are not able to own up to it.

 

[Revoltingest]

What happened is that you just realized you put your foot in your mouth and you are not able to own up to it.

Or....
You thought you had a "Gotcha!" moment.
But it evaporated.
Now you must save face.

Instead of trying so hard to win, just try to understand.

 

[Jeremiahcp]

Or....
You thought you had a "Gotcha!" moment.
But it evaporated.
Now you must save face.

Instead of trying so hard to win, just try to understand.

You should know by now that I don't care about saving face.

 

[Father Heathen]

United we stand, divided we fall. I think Trump is trying to bring America together. Can't we all just come together and love Trump?

No, I cannot abide opposition toward women's and LGBT rights, denial of science, nor corruption and incompetence.