Some things I am noticing

[ADigitalArtist]

As a mod you should set an example instead of antagonizing

As a mod, and as a member, it's not my responsibility to not reply to someone just because they don't want me to. If you're antagonized, then shake the dust from your feet and walk away.

Well hell, if I didn't say they all did, then I probably know they all don't,, don't you think lol

Considering you called gender identity disorder 'goalposts switched' to gender dysphoria, I had a pretty good reason to think you didn't know what it was or how it related to trans people, no. Also since you implied that 'political correctness' might be the reason trans identities aren't called mental illness, seemed pretty clear transgender = mental illness wasn't off the table for you.

 

[We Never Know]

As a mod, and as a member, it's not my responsibility to not reply to someone just because they don't want me to. If you're antagonized, then shake the dust from your feet and walk away.

Considering you called gender identity disorder 'goalposts switched' to gender dysphoria, I had a pretty good reason to think you didn't know what it was or how it related to trans people, no. Also since you implied that 'political correctness' might be the reason trans identities aren't called mental illness, seemed pretty clear transgender = mental illness wasn't off the table for you.

GID was taken out of DSM-5 and replaced with gender dysphoria. Do you agree?

If so then they are different right?

You brought in GID, not me. I never even brought up GID, you did.

Point shown. I rest my case.

Good day and good riddance lol

 

[ADigitalArtist]

GID was taken out and replaced with gender dysphoria. Do you agree?

If so then they are different right?

Point shown. I rest my case.

Good day and good riddance lol

They are different, I'll give you that much.
Guess we'll end here.
Transgender isn't in the norm in that it's not the statistical majority. But it is not a mental illness and it's not unnatural. Glad we're in agreement.

 

[We Never Know]

As a mod, and as a member, it's not my responsibility to not reply to someone just because they don't want me to. If you're antagonized, then shake the dust from your feet and walk away.

Considering you called gender identity disorder 'goalposts switched' to gender dysphoria, I had a pretty good reason to think you didn't know what it was or how it related to trans people, no. Also since you implied that 'political correctness' might be the reason trans identities aren't called mental illness, seemed pretty clear transgender = mental illness wasn't off the table for you.

And again her you go with "you think"
Lol. You have no clue

 

[ADigitalArtist]

And again her you go with "you think"
Lol. You have no clue

Well someone has to think, may as well be me.

 

[We Never Know]

They are different, I'll give you that much.
Guess we'll end here.
Transgender isn't in the norm in that it's not the statistical majority. But it is not a mental illness and it's not unnatural. Glad we're in agreement.

And now you are quote mining. Leaving out parts of my post. lmao! My whole post was..
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"GID was taken out of DSM-5 and replaced with gender dysphoria. Do you agree?

If so then they are different right?

You brought in GID, not me. I never even brought up GID, you did.

Point shown. I rest my case.

Good day and good riddance lol"

 

[We Never Know]

Well someone has to think, may as well be me.

As long as you "think" you are, you appear golden to yourself.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

And now you are quote mining. Leaving out parts of my post. lmao! My whole post was..
.
"GID was taken out of DSM-5 and replaced with gender dysphoria. Do you agree?

If so then they are different right?

You brought in GID, not me. I never even brought up GID, you did.

Point shown. I rest my case.

Good day and good riddance lol"

I did not. You first brought it up in post 82. That's what your link was about.

 

[We Never Know]

I did not. You first brought it up in post 82. That's what your link was about.

BS!!!!

This response of yours was a reply my post #122 which you snipped down.

They are different, I'll give you that much.
Guess we'll end here.
Transgender isn't in the norm in that it's not the statistical majority. But it is not a mental illness and it's not unnatural. Glad we're in agreement.

Quote mining. Own up to it lol

 

[We Never Know]

I did not. You first brought it up in post 82. That's what your link was about.

My post #82... Nothing about GID

See here...


Up until 2019 the WHO classified transgender people with a mental disorder.

WHO Drops Being Transgender from List of Mental Disorders | Time



Also have you ever heard of the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders(DSM-5)

What is the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders(DSM-5) used for?
The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) is the handbook used by health care professionals in the United States and much of the world as the authoritative guide to the diagnosis of mental disorders. DSM contains descriptions, symptoms and other criteria for diagnosing mental disorders.

What book provides for one overarching diagnosis of gender dysphoria with separate specific criteria for children and for adolescents and adults? The DSM-5

Psychiatry.org - What is Gender Dysphoria?.

 

[ADigitalArtist]

BS!!!!

This response of yours was a reply my post #122 which you snipped down.




Quote mining. Own up to it lol

So are you saying that your post, #82, was not about GID?
Beginning to think this is a reading comprehension problem more than a disagreement.

GID was in DSM-IV and WHO's index. It remained in WHO's index until 2019 despite having been removed in 2012 from the DSM in the newly revised version that would be published in 2013 as DSM-V.
Gender dysphoria was added, not to replace GID, but describing a condition some trans, nonbinary and intersex people have.
We in agreement so far?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

My post #82... Nothing about GID

Your link is talking about GID.

 

[We Never Know]

So are you saying that your post, #82, was not about GID?
Beginning to think this is a reading comprehension problem more than a disagreement.

GID was in DSM-IV and WHO's index. It remained in WHO's index until 2019 despite having been removed in 2012 from the DSM in the newly revised version that would be published in 2013 as DSM-V.
Gender dysphoria was added, not to replace GID, but describing a condition some trans, nonbinary and intersex people have.
We in agreement so far?

Just posted it as a response Lol

 

[We Never Know]

Your link is talking about GID.

My link is talking about gender dysphoria.

 

[We Never Know]

So are you saying that your post, #82, was not about GID?
Beginning to think this is a reading comprehension problem more than a disagreement.

GID was in DSM-IV and WHO's index. It remained in WHO's index until 2019 despite having been removed in 2012 from the DSM in the newly revised version that would be published in 2013 as DSM-V.
Gender dysphoria was added, not to replace GID, but describing a condition some trans, nonbinary and intersex people have.
We in agreement so far?

Again......

My bad. I didn't notice you moved the goal post from my post about "gender dysphoria" and inserted "GID" in its place in your post.


"With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” This change further focused the diagnosis on the gender identity-related distress that some transgender people experience (and for which they may seek psychiatric, medical, and surgical treatments)"

Psychiatry.org - Gender Dysphoria Diagnosis)

How many times are we going to cover this?

 

[ADigitalArtist]

My link is talking about gender dysphoria.

I'm talking about the first link.
"Up until 2019 the WHO classified transgender people with a mental disorder."
That disorder was GID.
From your link:

The United Nations’ health agency approved a resolution to remove “gender identity disorder”

 

[We Never Know]

Again......



How many times are we going to cover this?

Your link is talking about GID.

My link was from 2019. Which GID had been done away with 6 years earlier.

"With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.” T

 

[We Never Know]

I'm talking about the first link.
"Up until 2019 the WHO classified transgender people with a mental disorder."
That disorder was GID.
From your link:

My link was from 2019. Which GID had been done away with 6 years earlier.

"With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.”

 

[We Never Know]

I'm talking about the first link.
"Up until 2019 the WHO classified transgender people with a mental disorder."
That disorder was GID.
From your link:

Here's my link from post #82. Its dated 2019. Not 2013 when GID was replaced with gender dysphoria.

WHO Drops Being Transgender from List of Mental Disorders | Time

 

[ADigitalArtist]

My link was from 2019. Which GID had been done away with 6 years earlier.

"With the publication of DSM–5 in 2013, “gender identity disorder” was eliminated and replaced with “gender dysphoria.”

It wasn't replaced, as I already explained. But that's not my point. I mentioned GID because your link did, and you said it was removed for what could be 'political correctness' reasons.

Also, it was removed earlier in the DSM than the WHO guidelines, which are independent from the DSM. Which is why it changed in 2019. As someone else pointed out to you, the relevance of the DSM is much smaller than people think. It's not the say-all-be-all of diagnostic medicine.

But here:
Do we agree that being transgender is not a mental illness?