When you say "cis woman" what do you mean? Define it.
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South Carolina OKs ban on gender affirming care.
- Thread starter libre
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By standing on the shoulders of giants. This is by no means original with me. This is what cognitive science tells us.
So pogo stick therapy is an option in your opinion?
That's NOT what activist means in this context. (As I'm sure you know.) It means to advocate for a cause.
Citations? Given that GAC for minors is an established medical/psychiatric practice with known positive results, you're gonna have a hard time defending that one.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
I just did. A cis woman is a person who was assigned female at birth and identifies as female.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
You mean, like advocating for the cause of ensuring the long term health, happiness and wellbeing of their patients?
Like doctors do?
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
Coordination is happening. That’s what institutions do. All these gender specialists and psychiatrists didn’t independently come to their own conclusions about trans a decade ago, then get together, and discover they each were enlightened to the new truth about how gender should be viewed. Give me a break.
To be clear, I don’t use terms like mental illness either. I reject the way psychiatry views the mind. I was only highlighting the reality that psychiatry has no deep understanding of the mind. They’re simply holding their finger up to the political wind on this issue.
Finally, I don’t reject the idea that people exist who strongly identify with the gender opposite their bio sex. I reject the idea that any of us have a “true gender” and every second we are not in body alignment with true gender is tortuous. That’s manipulative propaganda.
This issue is a symptom of a deeper meaning crisis and there is no lasting meaning found in gender. The short term meaning trans minors are finding in belonging to the trans community can be recreated in multiple different directions without medicalizing them. Once they turn 18, they should be able to do as they want.
To be clear, I don’t use terms like mental illness either. I reject the way psychiatry views the mind. I was only highlighting the reality that psychiatry has no deep understanding of the mind. They’re simply holding their finger up to the political wind on this issue.
Finally, I don’t reject the idea that people exist who strongly identify with the gender opposite their bio sex. I reject the idea that any of us have a “true gender” and every second we are not in body alignment with true gender is tortuous. That’s manipulative propaganda.
This issue is a symptom of a deeper meaning crisis and there is no lasting meaning found in gender. The short term meaning trans minors are finding in belonging to the trans community can be recreated in multiple different directions without medicalizing them. Once they turn 18, they should be able to do as they want.
ImmortalFlame
Woke gremlin
Short version: vague conspiracy mongering.
Not even remotely interested in this. When you have something substantive to add, let me know.
Oh, except for this part:
"Finally, I don’t reject the idea that people exist who strongly identify with the gender opposite their bio sex. I reject the idea that any of us have a “true gender” and every second we are not in body alignment with true gender is tortuous. That’s manipulative propaganda."
I agree, which is why I am a gender abolitionist and I support affirming gender as an identity that can be totally dissociated from biological features or categories.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
Because you have provided substantive insight on the mind and gender in this thread?
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
So you think this is how we should approach gender with children because you think gender has no deeper reality beyond social construction?
Do you deem transitioning as unnecessary since biology should have no impact on gender?
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Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
This is an intuitive instinct many have which I sympathize with. The problem is gender specialists are a hammer looking for a nail. They and the teens are ganging up on parents. Parents are being put in a position of either going down the GAC route or tearing up the family relationship.
Most parents are busy trying to make ends meet and shouldn’t be expected to have a grasp of this complex issue in the current moment. Legislation can, at least temporarily, relieve parents of the responsibility and better preserve the family relationships.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Sorry, but no can buy. If we go by the above, then government should make almost all our decisions since so many don't understand a great many things.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
Should parents be allowed to consent to their children using Fentanyl recreationally?
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Circumcision doesn't cut off the entire member nor eliminates functionality.
However some people do think it's mutilation as well so I guess that earns half a point.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
Big difference, plus I'm not speaking in absolutes one way or the other.
Treasure Hunter
Well-Known Member
I’m not either. I’m not saying govt should make all parental decisions, but we both agree govt should intervene sometimes when it comes to physical harm.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
I agree, but that should be last choice imo, and not the first choice.
As opposed to...you, who does have a deep understanding of the mind? How did you arrive at your understanding?