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Student Protests Against Israel Are Wonderful

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Right....nothing to do with Israeli brutality, death, theft, & destruction.
And your timeline to support those claims?

Let's see, we can start with 2005, when Israel uprooted 9,000 Israeli's from their homes and gave Gaza to the Palestinians.

And then what happened?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
And your timeline to support those claims?

Let's see, we can start with 2005, when Israel uprooted 9,000 Israeli's from their homes and gave Gaza to the Palestinians.

And then what happened?
Beginning with the formation of Israel
with the Nakba. Continuing thu the
present genocide of Palestinians.
 

Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
I like seeing that a significant segment of society
is bucking the status quo of unqualified for Israel's
apartheid, human rights violations, fleecing US
taxpayers, & conducting genocide.
Students are often a bellwether. I hope this
portends a shift away from USA supporting vile
regimes.
It’s just a few making a lot of noise, cameras that re making it look like masses, external people bussed in and misguided people who have been hoodwinked.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
It’s just a few making a lot of noise, cameras that re making it look like masses, external people bussed in and misguided people who have been hoodwinked.
Says the one hoodwinked by Israel's propaganda
that genocide is necessary to defeat Hamas.
That Muslims must be killed & gotten rid of
because they're fundamental enemies..."human
animals".
Your ilk spoke similarly about about the Vietnam
war, ie, defeat the godless commies. But the
student protests stopped the war. USA was
defeated because it eventually realized that
the war was a lost cause. On the wrong side
of history then....on the wrong side now.
 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Says the one hoodwinked by Israel's propaganda
that genocide is necessary to defeat Hamas.
That Muslims must be killed & gotten rid of
because they're fundamental enemies..."human
animals".
Your ilk spoke similarly about about the Vietnam
war, ie, defeat the godless commies. But the
student protests stopped the war. USA was
defeated because it eventually realized that
the war was a lost cause. On the wrong side
of history then....on the wrong side now.
Apples and oranges.

Actually, I think it is your position that looks like and represents Vietnam.

I love how the young people react to the sponsored crazies.

 
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Kenny

Face to face with my Father
Premium Member
Palestinian peace activist Hamza Howidy spoke about his opposition to the campus protests in America, which he claims are “hurting the Palestinian cause,” in a Newsweek report last week.

Howidy, originally from Gaza City, has spoken out against Hamas for many years. He was arrested and tortured several times in Gaza for speaking out against Hamas.

While Howidy advocates for Palestinian liberation and freedom for the people in Gaza, he wrote that the manner in which many gather to voice their support for Palestinians does more to hurt the cause than help it.


Couldn’t be more right.

 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
“Zionists don’t deserve to live.”

Yep, totally innocent and legitimate protest. *eyeroll*

Anyone promoting threatening or hateful speech should definitely be criticized for doing so, and their speech should be unequivocally denounced. What percentage of the protesters are promoting such speech, though? Should the protests as a whole be painted with a broad brush based on the actions or words of a minority?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Apples and oranges.
Jews & Muslims

Are we playing word association?
Actually, I think it is your position that looks like and represents Vietnam.
I side against wrongful wars.
You side for them, eg, defending genocide against
Palestinians. This actually makes Israel less secure
because of the increased enmity against it...and
against Jews.
You & other advocates of violent Zionism have let
anti-Muslim propaganda, bigotry & vengeance lead
you astray. It's a loss of humanity for fellow humans
that even threatens those you believe you defend.
I love how the young people react to the sponsored crazies.
There you go again....the same Nixonesque tool of
dismissing protests with the false blame of agitators.
Over 34,000 dead, most of them children. Many more
maimed by lost eyes, hands, & limbs. Hundreds of
thousands of homes lost. Starvation under way.
And you, a good Christian, defend this. Because
they victims aren't Jews.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Anyone promoting threatening or hateful speech should definitely be criticized for doing so, and their speech should be unequivocally denounced. What percentage of the protesters are promoting such speech, though? Should the protests as a whole be painted with a broad brush based on the actions or words of a minority?
Hard to say when the quote came from the protesters’ leader.
 

stvdv

Veteran Member: I Share (not Debate) my POV
Of course there is, but it's not as simple, as the woke seem to think.
Seems to me, that you generalize "woke" and downplay it also. Not a good start when having a conversation

Woke:
However, the term was originally coined by progressive Black Americans and used in racial justice movements in the early to mid-1900s. To be "woke" politically in the Black community means that someone is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality, Merriam-Webster Dictionary states.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
Hard to say when the quote came from the protesters’ leader.

Which protesters, and how many of them give that person any authority to be their leader or speak on their behalf? Is there any source talking about this? There are protests on many campuses at this point, so I don't think the protesters as a whole have any centralized leadership.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Seems to me, that you generalize "woke" and downplay it also. Not a good start when having a conversation

Woke:
However, the term was originally coined by progressive Black Americans and used in racial justice movements in the early to mid-1900s. To be "woke" politically in the Black community means that someone is informed, educated and conscious of social injustice and racial inequality, Merriam-Webster Dictionary states.
I agree with the history you just explained.

But "woke" has devolved, and the "woke" are now doing more harm than good. I'm anti-woke. I'm anti-woke because I'm a moderate liberal who favors:

Martin Luther King over Ibram X. Kendi
Equality over Equity
Critical Thinking over "Lived Experience"
Free Speech over cancel culture

And so on.
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
There is nothing moderate about trying to excuse the killing, injury, and starvation of tens of thousands of civilians or arguing that millions of people should be outright banned from immigration based on their broad religious label.
It's sooo fun to be misquoted, ffs.

What I've said is that the world needs to step in and eliminate Hamas.

What I've said is that Islamists want to spread totalitarianism, and long standing immigration laws exclude those who hold totalitarian goals.
 
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