No I'm 'giving him ****' (re: disagreeing) for expressing views I think are harmful. Being honest doesn't supersede that. Honesty doesn't cover over impact lol.
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Go away. I really can't stand you. You're so rude to me and so arrogant, trying to speak for a community you're not even in. You're an example of why I can't stand "allies". You're not trans. Accusing me of made up bs like "passing privilege". Wtf. As if I have any control over what testosterone does to me. Ever since that crap, I don't really read your garbage.
Leave me alone, as I do to you, even though I find your stances harmful to trans people, seeing as they erase us and make the very concept meaningless. Stances like yours are the reason why LGBT acceptance is declining for the first time in years. Good job, "ally". I have nothing else to say to you, unless you want to get into a flame war.
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Six Antifa Extremists Arrested, Charged with Domestic Terrorism in Fiery Atlanta Riots
Six people were arrested on charges of domestic terrorism by Atlanta police following violent riots carried out by Antifa activists.
Antifa Has Damaged Five Federal Buildings In Portland At A Cost Of More Than $2 Million | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry
Antifa Has Damaged Five Federal Buildings In Portland At A Cost Of More Than $2 Million
Antifa's Deadly Year Shows the Extremism on the Far Left | Opinion
The threats from the far right are real and undeniable, but there is far-left violence, too. Americans don't seem to recognize that.
www.newsweek.com
Antifa Damaged Millions Worth Of Federal Property In Oregon Alone, Attorney Says
About $2.3 million worth of federal property has been damaged as a result of the riots caused by Antifa, a U.S. Attorney for Oregon estimated.
www.christianitydaily.com
She's elected herself the spokesperson for trans people, even though she's not transgender. I'm harming trans people in her eyes by being a trans man who is a conservative. It's just intolerant leftist nuttery. Seriously, **** that.
'Passing privilege' has never exited my mouth (or fingers). Because I don't have a passing standard. I absolutely do not resent you for you being happy with your body but I do resent how you treat other people, includinf trans people, you feel make trans meaningless, erase them as trans, or say they have no place in the community you only identify with when you're trying to shut opposition down. Kind of like 'no womb no opinion' style arguments which I also think are weak.
My nonbinary trans and trans masc women friends and associates aren't here to give their piece, but they exist, and they think you're rude and arrogant, and give the trans community a bad name cuddling up to the baseline conservative party that thinks you aren't valid. They're not extremist, they're typical.
Anyway, I know you can't ignore mods but you're free to just ignore me the standard way if I upset you that much.
You can reply all you want, but I'm not reading it.
You call me nutter after saying I'm rude. Lol.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
There was a time when females having libido and orgasms was considered an abnormal disorder.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
Medical treatment is the subject, and by highlighting your two-faced hypocrisy, you were refuted.
Also, if anything is an evil mutilation of children, it's circumcision, so you're not in a position to speak.
Then why don’t they go to the places rife’d with white supremacists and far right extremists, and destroy THOSE places? In my state, Seattle and Tacoma are 2 of the most liberal run, left leaning cities in the entire state; both cities with with liberal democrats in every position of power from Police chief to City Council members, to Mayor; and those are the major cities they chose to protest and destroy! If they are so intent on fighting white supremacy, who come they didn’t go to the small towns where everybody had Trump signs no their front lawns and confederate flags in the back of their Pick-ups, and raise hell there? Then I looked at other states and it seems they always seem to go to cities run by liberals, and riot there while looking the other way at the small towns run by republicans! Yeah; they might SAY antifa, but when you look at what they actually DO, it’s something totally different.
I find it extremely ignorant to suggest all of the bigotry, prejudice, and hate is on the right and none on the left; it exists on both sides. The difference I see is, the extremes on the left seem to be extremely intolerant of opposing viewpoints to the extent of attempting to shut down discussions of those who do not agree with them; especially when it comes to College campus, and protests. I don’t see as much of this from the right.
The vandalism—not just a protest, but destruction of decorations set up by other students—was done by some students, who don't seem to constitute the majority sentiment at the school. The Pride event was organized by other students, but some of the outlets reporting the news make it sound like the school itself was forcing rainbow-themed items on students even though that didn't happen. The ones trying to impose on others were the vandals who didn't even have to participate in the first place.
At school Pride event students destroyed decorations, chanted “USA are my pronouns," officials say
School officials in Burlington are working to respond to a clash at a middle school where some students tore down rainbow decorations and chanted “USA are my pronouns,” as the school’s LGBTQ+ student group celebrated the beginning of Pride Month.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
I trust doctors, psychiatrists, and medical experts moreso than I do random automatons who simply regurgitate whatever propaganda is spoonfed to them.
What's weird is that most of the hate toward LGBT is based on religious superstition. If I recall correctly, you're an atheist, so what's the basis of your bigotry?
tytlyf
Not Religious
None of those are Antifa. Just because conservative gossip media says something, doesn't mean it's true.
Six Antifa Extremists Arrested, Charged with Domestic Terrorism in Fiery Atlanta Riots
Six people were arrested on charges of domestic terrorism by Atlanta police following violent riots carried out by Antifa activists.news.yahoo.com
Antifa Has Damaged Five Federal Buildings In Portland At A Cost Of More Than $2 Million | NewsRadio 740 KTRH | Michael Berry
Antifa Has Damaged Five Federal Buildings In Portland At A Cost Of More Than $2 Millionktrh.iheart.com
Antifa's Deadly Year Shows the Extremism on the Far Left | Opinion
The threats from the far right are real and undeniable, but there is far-left violence, too. Americans don't seem to recognize that.Antifa Damaged Millions Worth Of Federal Property In Oregon Alone, Attorney Says
About $2.3 million worth of federal property has been damaged as a result of the riots caused by Antifa, a U.S. Attorney for Oregon estimated.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
It isn't surprising that a conservative leaning article would distort or omit inconvenient details. It's also not surprising that conservatives would paint bullies and vandals as heroes.The vandalism—not just a protest, but destruction of decorations set up by other students—was done by some students, who don't seem to constitute the majority sentiment at the school. The Pride event was organized by other students, but some of the outlets reporting the news make it sound like the school itself was forcing rainbow-themed items on students even though that didn't happen. The ones trying to impose on others were the vandals who didn't even have to participate in the first place.
At school Pride event students destroyed decorations, chanted “USA are my pronouns," officials say
School officials in Burlington are working to respond to a clash at a middle school where some students tore down rainbow decorations and chanted “USA are my pronouns,” as the school’s LGBTQ+ student group celebrated the beginning of Pride Month.apnews.com
How do you know Antifa was not involved?
I find it unfortunate that the vandals shouted "my pronouns are USA" while directly violating the First Amendment of the Constitution on which their country was founded. One has to wonder what kind of "patriotism" their parents taught them considering how inconsistent and resentful it seems to be.
I'm not a member. I can't explain what their members do. I don't support violence. All my comments reflected was the broad attitudes of Antifa versus white supremacists and the far right. If there is going to be riots I would rather see property damaged rather than people hurt. The far right extremists exist to hurt people. That is all they stand for. They have no redeeming attitudes that aim to progress society. As noted many Antifa members have been violent, but their violence typically targets far right extremists.
Feel free to make a list. As it is the right is far worse at this in recent years. Do you really want to compare the two, side by side? The right has a former president facing multiple indictments for crimes against the USA, and many republicans support him.
The only far left groups are fringe and there are no politicians that are part of it. Compare that to the right and the MAGAs who call out citizens for their crimes. Geatz just held an unofficial hearing that aimed to defend Jan 6 defendants.
Matt Gaetz holds first House hearing on alleged abuse against Jan. 6 defendants
Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) held a House hearing with Jan. 6 defendants and family members, the first of its kind, during which they outlined accusations of abuse of power from
The extreme on the right includes political leaders, but not on the left. You don't see anyone aligned and defending the Antifa members for their violence.
And you cite college campuses and protests? I am aware of some of the extreme and controversial events that colleges have cancelled, and to my memory these were cancelled due to the security problem rampant in far right extremism. Feel free to cite specific examples and how colleges were wrong to cancel events. Your broad brush victimization is not sufficient.
tytlyf
Not Religious
How do you know Antifa was involved? Find better sources other than conservative opinion media with an agenda.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
The conservative version of patriotism is shallow and superficial and has nothing to do with the actual virtues and values that (are supposed to) define this nation: rights, freedom, equality, justice, etc.
They engage in flag idolatry while loathing everything that the flag is supposed to stand for.
To be fair, I've seen conservatives who believe in "live and let live" and don't believe patriotism means blind loyalty either. They just seem to be mostly drowned out by the loud and hateful extremists nowadays.