Tennessee bans lots of Drag Shows and gender-affirming care for kids

[Jose Fly]

I was just talking with someone about this the other day. The USA that I used to love has changed in ways that I no longer even recognize.

True, but in a general sense that's to be expected. As we all age, the society around us will change away from what it was when we grew up.

But you're right in a specific sense. Given the demographics and views of the younger generations, I've been wondering for a while now how the GOP would respond to that. Unfortunately, IMO they've taken the darker path.

I guess Fox News doesn't report on their own corruption, eh?

Nope. Yet another indication that they're propaganda rather than news.

 

[metis]

Here is a rather lengthy article on transgender with lotsa stats: Report Reveals Sharp Rise in Transgender Young People in the U.S.

 

[SkepticThinker]

True, but in a general sense that's to be expected. As we all age, the society around us will change away from what it was when we grew up.

But you're right in a specific sense. Given the demographics and views of the younger generations, I've been wondering for a while now how the GOP would respond to that. Unfortunately, IMO they've taken the darker path.

True. My husband and I even speculated that maybe we're just getting old lol

The GOP has gone completely off the rails to me. I mean, I never thought I'd see such a thing. And now the guy running for President (again) is some dude who incited an insurrection against his own government. Like, what?? It feels like I'm watching a country slowly fall apart.

Nope. Yet another indication that they're propaganda rather than news.

I wish their viewers knew that.

 

[F1fan]

It’s notable how naive and poorly informed the conservatives are in these debates. They misrepresent the actual issues, like calling gender affirming care mutilation, as if there is a crime being committed. This is the propaganda of far right media working on these minds.

 

[Jose Fly]

Here is a rather lengthy article on transgender with lotsa stats: Report Reveals Sharp Rise in Transgender Young People in the U.S.

And that's exactly the sort of thing that feeds into conservatives' fears. In their alternate reality, being trans is a wrong and terrible choice, and this data tells them that someone must be convincing the kids to choose to be trans. Public schools, universities, Hollywood, the media, and libraries are all common targets.

And trying to explain that it's really much more simple, i.e., that as being trans becomes more socially acceptable, more trans people are comfortable coming out, is usually a folly. To harp on my point, it's no different than how creationists cling to their talking points no matter what.

 

[Father Heathen]

So you think there should be laws against circumcision, then?

Excellent point.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Excellent point.

Thank you

 

[Jose Fly]

True. My husband and I even speculated that maybe we're just getting old lol

Well, I don't have to speculate! I'm just gettin' old. This year I became a member of the "closer to 60 than 50 club".

The GOP has gone completely off the rails to me. I mean, I never thought I'd see such a thing. And now the guy running for President (again) is some dude who incited an insurrection against his own government. Like, what?? It feels like I'm watching a country slowly fall apart.

Yup. IMO, I think we're headed for either a right-wing insurgency or a fascist-esque state. As the demographics continue to change, Republicans will find it increasingly difficult to win national elections, and they've already shown that many of their voters simply will not accept Democratic rule. So I see them either engaging in insurgent attacks against Democratic governments (federal, state, local), or rigging the system to ensure Republican rule regardless of election results.

I really hope I'm wrong and they eventually just give in and adjust their positions to better match the populace.

I wish their viewers knew that.

That's the luxury of propaganda....it has no obligation to the truth.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

rigging the system to ensure Republican rule regardless of election results.

I really hope I'm wrong and they eventually just give in and adjust their positions to better match the populace.

I don't think you are wring because they are moving things towards being able to outright deny a democratic vote.

 

[Kenny]

You mean like circumcision?
No health professional operates on a child without medical necessity. That includes sex change surgery, which typically doesn’t occur until adulthood. For obvious reasons. So I honestly don’t know what you’re referring to.
Unless that regularly occurs in the US?
I certainly can’t find anything to support such a claim though. Perhaps you can help me out

too many:

Number of transgender children seeking treatment surges in U.S.

About 42,000 U.S. children ages 6 to 17 were diagnosed with gender dysphoria in 2021, nearly triple the number in 2017, a unique data analysis for Reuters found.

www.reuters.com

Even hormonal treatment has long term effects:

 

[Kenny]

What about children who are born intersexed, where doctors see both anatomies? What do they do?

XX or XY?

 

[Jose Fly]

I don't think you are wring because they are moving things towards being able to outright deny a democratic vote.

Interestingly, on a local right-wing radio program the host asked his guest (who I believe was a militia leader) where he thought things were headed, and he and I both said the same thing at the same time....."an insurgency".

Of course he figured that the Dems will keep "stealing elections", which will justify the insurgency, whereas I reached the same conclusion from a different route (right-wingers refusing to abide Democratic government).

I almost had to pull over, I was so shocked at how we reached the same conclusion.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I almost had to pull over, I was so shocked at how we reached the same conclusion.

I'm not, but I've been feeling this storm coming for awhile.

 

[Jose Fly]

XX or XY?

Key Issues Facing People With Intersex Traits

New CAP data and analysis offer insights into the experiences of people with intersex traits.

www.americanprogress.org

"“Intersex” is an umbrella term used to describe people born with sex traits that do not fit binary medical definitions of male or female sexual or reproductive anatomy. Intersex populations are born with these differences in sex traits or may develop them during childhood. Human sex development is naturally diverse, with many variations possible in genitalia, hormones, internal anatomy, and/or chromosomes. It is estimated that up to 1.7 percent of the population has an intersex trait and that approximately 0.5 percent of people have clinically identifiable sexual or reproductive variations."

So in a population of 332,000,000 (approximate US population), that's 5.6 million intersex people.

In biology, one of the main things you learn is that in large populations there is a lot of variability of traits, especially with complex, multi-faceted traits.

That's just reality.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

XX or XY?

Usually neither, and it still doesn't necessarily matter. Yeah, Nature can spit out a girl with XY chromosomes. It happens. All kinds if weird things do. Nature is under no obligation to be neat and pretty and clear cut for us, and it just is not.

 

[Jose Fly]

I'm not, but I've been feeling this storm coming for awhile.

IMO, it's going to come down to how many they convince to join them. It could very well turn out that engaging in what basically amounts to terrorism actually backfires and turns most conservatives against them.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

IMO, it's going to come down to how many they convince to join them. It could very well turn out that engaging in what basically amounts to terrorism actually backfires and turns most conservatives against them.

Terrorism is a part of the plan. This won't be a conventional war. Kidnappings, assassinations, blowing up bridges and shooting power sub stations, it will look more like the Oklahoma City Bombing than the Civil War, all with the intent to bring society to it's knees by causing severe disruptions and mass fear.

 

[Jose Fly]

Terrorism is a part of the plan. This won't be a conventional war. Kidnappings, assassinations, blowing up bridges and shooting power sub stations, it will look more like the Oklahoma City Bombing than the Civil War, all with the intent to bring society to it's knees by causing severe disruptions and mass fear.

Yup, and that's been the intent of right-wing terrorists for years. The good thing is, so far none of it has worked and it's mostly backfired on them. They all think "This'll start a race war/cause society to collapse, and then we'll take over", but it never works. Funny thing about going around killing innocent people....it pisses off the vast, vast majority of people.

 

[Brian2]

So wait, you think that parents and teachers are expecting and telling teenagers to have sex, and that's your example of something evil being taught as good?
Where is this happening and who is doing this?

If you're talking about teaching sex-ed then you've lost me. Because that isn't this.

That is not what I said and you are just being argumentative and not serious about the topic even though I would say that you would probably agree with what I actually did propose.

 

[Brian2]

Sex and gender are different.

Yes sex and gender are different and I may have confused them

Why do you think this is happening "on a whim?" Isn't that a tad demeaning and condescending?

People would do it because identify as another gender than the one their biology indicates.
Maybe "on a whim" sounds demeaning and condescending but was not meant to be.