The Bacteria.

[Aupmanyav]

Which interpretation are you referring to? Give me the post number.

Dead Sea
Earliest translations of the name of the Dead Sea into non-indigenous languages often use its original name of “The Salt Sea”, but already by the Roman Era, visitors to Judea had begun to refer to the sea as the “Dead Sea”, as they were mostly struck with how the waters were devoid of all life-forms, whether plants or living creatures, thereby in their view, earning it this title of a “Dead” Sea.

Sorry, your information is not correct, and Dead-Sea is not as dead as you think. Read it here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...dead-sea-bacteria-underwater-craters-science/

"In 2011 a group of scientists from Be'er Sheva, Israel and Germany discovered fissures in the floor of the Dead Sea by scuba diving and observing the surface. These fissures allow fresh and brackish water to enter the Dead Sea. They sampled biofilms surrounding the fissures and discovered numerous species of bacteria and archaea." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea#Fauna_and_flora

 

[FearGod]

Which interpretation are you referring to? Give me the post number.

And what you were arguing for, Valjean said that the quran says nothing about genetics and he added that my interpretation was imaginative, you replied instead of him and i assumed then that you and him know already about which verse we're talking about and you're asking me now which verse.
You don't know what you're talking about, are you serious or are you drinking some kind of tea.

The quran says nothing about the genetic code. No-one on Earth at the time had any knowledge about genetics or any microbiology. You're doing some wildly imaginitive interpretation.

Why is it essential to know Arabic? We have scores of authoritative translations from people who are perhaps more qualified than you and translations given in Islamic websites. Yes, I have studied Qur'an (you do not even put 'Q' in Qur'an in capital/Block letter, that is for your scholarship). And it is what you will expect from a caravan leader from 7th Century who knew about Jewish and Christian views and based his view on them, except that he called himself as the last messenger of God.

 

[FearGod]

Which interpretation are you referring to? Give me the post number.
Sorry, your information is not correct, and Dead-Sea is not as dead as you think. Read it here: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/...dead-sea-bacteria-underwater-craters-science/

"In 2011 a group of scientists from Be'er Sheva, Israel and Germany discovered fissures in the floor of the Dead Sea by scuba diving and observing the surface. These fissures allow fresh and brackish water to enter the Dead Sea. They sampled biofilms surrounding the fissures and discovered numerous species of bacteria and archaea." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dead_Sea#Fauna_and_flora

OMG,

I was talking about the origin of the name, did you understand.
We were talking about what the word "dead" means, @Monk Of Reason please tell these guys why i used the dead sea, it
seems they reply without understanding what the talks were about.

 

[FearGod]

Unbelievable, the Atheists were disagreeing with me while not knowing which verse I was talking about,
just blindly disagree and i was expecting this to happen and it happened.

They don't investigate, they don't search for the truth, a blind disbelief.

 

[Aupmanyav]

1- for Jinny , That's personal experience , until you meet a person had that ability(magician using Jinny) , you would believe me.
1-For death, no one could revive you, or revive the deaths because soul is taken from body by an angel.
-God in Quran told us the universe is in expansion process before 1400 years, the scientists discover that recently. so Quran was lieing, now it's tell the truth ?
-God in Quran told us there are other planets similair to this earth , there is a life there, so because scientists could discover that, until that Quran is telling a lie ?

1.Science and educated people today do not base their views on personal experiences. They need a solid proof to agree to a proposition.
2. There is no proof for existence of soul or of angels. People have been revived after they have been completely dead. That is what is known as artificial resuscitation. That uses many techniques including electric shocks. People who die because of being frozen in snow also can be revived up to a certain time limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_ventilation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia#Management, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_arrest#Management
3. Give me the verse number where Qur'an says so. Does it indicate that the universe is still expanding at greater speeds than before?
4. No, all planets are not similar. In our solar system, we have hot Mercury and Venus and dead cold Saturn and Uranus. There are billions of galaxies with trillions of suns and quadrillions of planets in the universe.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Unbelievable, the Atheists were disagreeing with me while not knowing which verse I was talking about, just blindly disagree and i was expecting this to happen and it happened. They don't investigate, they don't search for the truth, a blind disbelief.

No atheists are not that lazy. I am checking the whole fking thread. I am on Page four now. From page 4 to 15, you have not quoted anything from Qur'an. I will check the rest of the pages and reply to whatever quote you may have selected from Qur'an. See my post above, in which I trash some information that you say is in Qur'an. I will like you to mention those verses.

 

[Aupmanyav]

My main interesting question again: How you explain that scientists (NO ONE) could not revive the death person?

Why were there no airplanes, cars, computers in 8th Century? Humans have progressed with time. We have come to a stage when the women can have artificial insemination, we have cloned sheep, we have been able to replace various parts of body - heart, liver, lung, skin, bone marrow, etc. Severed limbs can be re-attached, and in one case, even a severed head also has been re-attached. In time, we would be closer to giving life to a dead person. I would not say that it is an interesting question, to me it seems an unintelligent question, a sign of جاهلية‎‎ jāhilīyah.

 

[LuisDantas]

Unbelievable, the Atheists were disagreeing with me while not knowing which verse I was talking about,
just blindly disagree and i was expecting this to happen and it happened.

They don't investigate, they don't search for the truth, a blind disbelief.

You should not assume we have no notion of the Qur'an.

 

[Godobeyer]

1.Science and educated people today do not base their views on personal experiences. They need a solid proof to agree to a proposition.

Human whom made science , and science is not complete to know everything. its always develop.

2. There is no proof for existence of soul or of angels. People have been revived after they have been completely dead. That is what is known as artificial resuscitation. That uses many techniques including electric shocks. People who die because of being frozen in snow also can be revived up to a certain time limit. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_ventilation, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypothermia#Management, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardiac_arrest#Management

When you would died ask them to revive you

3. Give me the verse number where Qur'an says so. Does it indicate that the universe is still expanding at greater speeds than before?

And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

https://quran.com/51/47

4. No, all planets are not similar. In our solar system, we have hot Mercury and Venus and dead cold Saturn and Uranus. There are billions of galaxies with trillions of suns and quadrillions of planets in the universe

No, you don't understand which mean .
I mean There is 7 planets similar to earth in universe (not in our solar system) , its had life too.

 

[Godobeyer]

Why were there no airplanes, cars, computers in 8th Century? Humans have progressed with time. We have come to a stage when the women can have artificial insemination, we have cloned sheep, we have been able to replace various parts of body - heart, liver, lung, skin, bone marrow, etc. Severed limbs can be re-attached, and in one case, even a severed head also has been re-attached. In time, we would be closer to giving life to a dead person. I would not say that it is an interesting question, to me it seems an unintelligent question, a sign of جاهلية‎‎ jāhilīyah.

But what is your waranty that science could revive the death in future ?

 

[Aupmanyav]

@Fear God, I have checked the whole damn thread. you have not quoted even a single line from Qur'an in this thread. If you have, give me the post number.

You should not assume we have no notion of the Qur'an.

Not only that, I frequently see that atheists have better knowledge of Bible and Qur'an than the believers. We have been through them and have analysed them.

But what is your warranty that science could revive the death in future?

Where have I given such a warranty? I have mentioned only what has been achieved.

 

[FearGod]

No atheists are not that lazy. I am checking the whole fking thread. I am on Page four now. From page 4 to 15, you have not quoted anything from Qur'an. I will check the rest of the pages and reply to whatever quote you may have selected from Qur'an. See my post above, in which I trash some information that you say is in Qur'an. I will like you to mention those verses.

Good to know that you are willing to investigate, check for what this word means"سلالة"

 

[FearGod]

@Fear God, I have checked the whole damn thread. you have not quoted even a single line from Qur'an in this thread. If you have, give me the post number.

Then what you were talking about, @Valjean said my interpretation was imaginative and you agreed with him.

 

[FearGod]

You should not assume we have no notion of the Qur'an.

Do you have a better knowledge than me in understanding the quran?

 

[Aupmanyav]

When you would died ask them to revive you

I would not do any such thing. I have lived my life fairly happily in the last 73 years. Even if it was possible, it would be a costly procedure. I would not like money to be wasted on me. I would not opt for a heart transplant or cancer treatment even if I am afflicted by these maladies. Now it is the turn of my children and their children to enjoy. Let them. I will merge back into the substance of the universe (Hindus call it Brahman), water to water, soil to soil, breath to air.

 

[LuisDantas]

Do you have a better knowledge than me in understanding the quran?

I don't know. I don't doubt it, either.

I do know that claims that I don't know how to appreciate the wisdom of the Qur'an have been stretched very thin indeed by now. The samples that I have read are plenty enough to convince me of its worth, such as it is.

It is just a regular Abrahamic scripture. Slightly more artistic and self-righteous than the Bible, and certainly better organized.

But ultimately... it is just scripture, and not at all a very remarkable example of one.

 

[Aupmanyav]

I mean there is 7 planets similar to earth in universe (not in our solar system) , its had life too.

What proof do you have for it? I say there are 107 such planets. Just shoving a book in my face does not make a proof. That is known as 'Circular reasoning' - 'It is true because my book says so and my book is true'.

 

[FearGod]

I don't know. I don't doubt it, either.

I do know that claims that I don't know how to appreciate the wisdom of the Qur'an have been stretched very thin indeed by now. The samples that I have read are plenty enough to convince me of its worth, such as it is.

It is just a regular Abrahamic scripture. Slightly more artistic and self-righteous than the Bible, and certainly better organized.

But ultimately... it is just scripture, and not at all a very remarkable example of one.

You don't know the language of the quran, so you can't make your own fair judgement and
i don't blame you for that.

 

[Aupmanyav]

'And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.'

And who is this 'we'? What proof do you have for this 'we'? Why should we believe in a 7th Century saying without any proof? They even thought at that time that earth was flat.

Then what you were talking about, @Valjean said my interpretation was imaginative and you agreed with him.

Give me the number of the post. This thread extends for 15 pages. Valjean must have said something to which I agreed.

 

[Godobeyer]

I would not do any such thing. I have lived my life fairly happily in the last 73 years. Even if it was possible, it would be a costly procedure. I would not like money to be wasted on me. I would not opt for a heart transplant or cancer treatment even if I am afflicted by these maladies. Now it is the turn of my children and their children to enjoy. Let them. I will merge back into the substance of the universe (Hindus call it Brahman), water to water, soil to soil, breath to air.

So enjoy it