The Bacteria.

[beenherebeforeagain]

Bacteria can survive high temperatures, humans will turn into ashes, if not strange then can
you explain how this to be simple?

It's been explained, and some have pointed you to resources that explain it. You simply refuse to accept the explanations: there is no mystery here that cannot be understood with a basic knowledge of chemistry and biology.

In simple terms, it is in the evolved nature of bacteria that in any sample, a few individuals may survive under conditions that would be fatal to humans or other multicellular life...and in fact, is fatal to most of the bacteria. Humans evolved to survive under much more limited conditions than bacteria. By the way, not all species of bacteria can survive boiling or other extreme conditions, and while some species thrive under extreme conditions, many species of bacteria are only able to survive brief exposure to those conditions.

 

[Windwalker]

I don't agree with you that living forever can't be a challenge because it'll never happen,

Sounds just like the people who said we will never be able to fly. Yet we do it every day now.

I'm quoting your reply which doesn't really make any sense.

What about it doesn't make sense? It's seems quite clear to me and the few people who "liked" that post. It made perfect sense to them.

 

[FearGod]

That's already been explained in this discussion here why. And so what is your conclusion here even if you ignore the scientific reasons why? What is your point in all of this. Can you please just state it and get it over with?

To explain what makes the bacteria has the ability to resist high temperature,
what difference it cells from ours that can bear harsh conditions?

 

[LuisDantas]

in this issue Quran said you born and you will died, agree ?

Of course. It hardly takes religious faith to realize that people are born and die.

Why it's not need an explanation lol

Why, of course it does not. Did anyone promise that humans would be capable of living forever? Despite everything pointing out against it?

I do believe it's interesting point.

If you say so. I don't understand why it would be.

why not ? because everyone want to live longer,or revive from death.

Not everyone. I certainly hope, as @Windwalker does, that humans never reach such a disastrous situation.

Suprised me , How ?

I live in a land plagued by believers in spirits. Somewhere between 10%-90% of Brazilians believe that it is possible for "mediums" to speak the words of the deceased.

They are a remarkably dishonest bunch. Dishonest with themselves above all else. They come very near to shout out loud for people to allow them to keep deluding themselves.

They are also fond of using stage magic tricks with various degrees of competence, in order to further their act. It is not all that difficult an art to learn.

 

[LuisDantas]

What you call it then?

Indulging your desire to play a game of make-believe that we have no knowledge of biology whatsoever.

 

[Windwalker]

It's been explained, and some have pointed you to resources that explain it. You simply refuse to accept the explanations: there is no mystery here that cannot be understood with a basic knowledge of chemistry and biology.

In simple terms, it is in the evolved nature of bacteria that in any sample, a few individuals may survive under conditions that would be fatal to humans or other multicellular life...and in fact, is fatal to most of the bacteria. Humans evolved to survive under much more limited conditions than bacteria. By the way, not all species of bacteria can survive boiling or other extreme conditions, and while some species thrive under extreme conditions, many species of bacteria are only able to survive brief exposure to those conditions.

Again, I have have to ask of him, what is his point here? Bears can survive winter by hibernating, and humans cannot. Fish breathe oxygen out of water and live their whole lives in it, whereas humans cannot. What is he trying to say to us? Any ideas? I've asked him and gotten no answer.

 

[FearGod]

Sounds just like the people who said we will never be able to fly. Yet we do it every day now.

You stated that the quran challenged something that won't happen and not me.

What about it doesn't make sense? It's seems quite clear to me and the few people who "liked" that post. It made perfect sense to them.

OMG, because you claimed that the quran predicted something that wouldn't happen which is our ability to
find away to live forever.

You can't put limits to science and as you said we weren't able to fly and now we do, imagine if the quran said we
won't ever able to fly and made it as a challenge?

 

[Brickjectivity]

Here is the person who discovered the existence of bacteria: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antonie_van_Leeuwenhoek

The bacteria cell was much smaller than a plant cell, so nobody knew about bacteria until Van Leeuwenhoek first saw them. He did not invent microscopes or discover cells, but he made a higher power microscope. He was not a professional researcher but was good at making lenses. He reported that bacteria looked like little animals.

Better microscopes allowed closer examination of bacteria, and a lot more people were examining them. Before Van Leeuwenhoek, Microscopes only magnified by about 20x. His microscopes magnified by 200x or more.

 

[Windwalker]

To explain what makes the bacteria has the ability to resist high temperature,
what difference it cells from ours that can bear harsh conditions?

That's been explained scientifically. Now, what is YOUR explanation for it? Please answer this.

 

[FearGod]

Indulging your desire to play a game of make-believe that we have no knowledge of biology whatsoever.

Who said we don't have knowledge in biology? actually this discussion is about the bacteria according to science,
i didn't involve God yet with it but you're the ones doing it.

 

[Windwalker]

You stated that the quran challenged something that won't happen and not me.

I have no idea what you imagine I said. I said your reading the Quran as predicting science won't be able to do something, is a bad reading of the Quran. I stand by that.

OMG, because you claimed that the quran predicted something that wouldn't happen which is our ability to
find away to live forever.

Again, this statement makes no sense.

You can't put limits to science and as you said we weren't able to fly and now we do, imagine if the quran said we
won't ever able to fly and made it as a challenge?

Am I misunderstanding something here in your argument? I thought you said because the Quran says all humans will die, this tells us that science will never be able to stop death. Isn't that your argument?

 

[LuisDantas]

Who said we don't have knowledge in biology?

You. Your posts in this thread would make no sense otherwise.

actually this discussion is about the bacteria according to science,
i didn't involve God yet with it but you're the ones doing it.

You must be very confused if you truly believe in that.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Who said we don't have knowledge in biology? actually this discussion is about the bacteria according to science,
i didn't involve God yet with it but you're the ones doing it.

It's the Evolution vs. Creationism board; you have a history of making certain kinds of posts and advocating a certain perspective. And, you invoked God as soon as you brought up the Quran.

So, what is your point to all this: it isn't a mystery to biologists, so it's pretty much got to be something to do with God and/or religion, given where you started this thread and what you've asked about so far.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Life has developed in various environments. In arctic colds, hot deserts, deep seas, undersea volcano vents, etc. This is adaptation and evolution. Read this: http://voices.nationalgeographic.com/2013/08/02/5-extreme-life-forms-that-live-on-the-edge/

You. Your posts in this thread would make no sense otherwise.

People like Fear God are soul of these threads. Interesting to see regression of knowledge, especially among Muslims.

 

[FearGod]

Again, I have have to ask of him, what is his point here? Bears can survive winter by hibernating, and humans cannot. Fish breathe oxygen out of water and live their whole lives in it, whereas humans cannot. What is he trying to say to us? Any ideas? I've asked him and gotten no answer.

We know the reasons for how the bears save their energy but do we know how the bacteria resists the extremely harsh conditions?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

We know the reasons for how the bears save their energy but do we know how the bacteria resists the extremely harsh conditions?

Yes, we do. We've explained it and provided links to other resources.

 

[FearGod]

That's been explained scientifically. Now, what is YOUR explanation for it? Please answer this.

Ok. in which post you replied how the bacteria can do it?

 

[FearGod]

I have no idea what you imagine I said. I said your reading the Quran as predicting science won't be able to do something, is a bad reading of the Quran. I stand by that.

Again, this statement makes no sense.

Am I misunderstanding something here in your argument? I thought you said because the Quran says all humans will die, this tells us that science will never be able to stop death. Isn't that your argument?

You pretend not to understand, so I'm done here.

 

[FearGod]

Yes, we do. We've explained it and provided links to other resources.

Ok, which post explains how the bacteria can do it?

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Ok, which post explains how the bacteria can do it?

You read and responded to them earlier in the thread: GO BACK AND RE-READ THEM FOR YOURSELF.

I'm done with your trolling game.