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The Big Bang Theory is dead.

gnostic

The Lost One
You're splitting hairs.

The big bang has been traced back in time to when it was smaller than a virus. It approaches zero the further back in time you go.

All the matter, all the dark energy, all the energy, and all the dark matter along with every potentiality was within this point that would have no dimensions at all (probably) if it could be traced back even further.

How many of these miracle points could fit within the known universe? Is this where all the infinite uiniverses exist? created from the human mind and our underastyanding of mathematics.

And here some people believe God created only one single universe but somehow others believe we can make an infinite number out of thin air.

And there you go.

You are mixing the 2 very different models into one big mess.

The Big Bang models aren't the same as the Multiverse model, thereby creating another one of your wack-job conspiracy theory.

You speak of science being the same as religion, your original conspiracy, with your absurd 40,000-year-old fantasy of single universal language and ancient science that never existed in this time period. And then poof, one language become many because of your absurd version of fictional Tower of Babel some 4000 years ago.

And if that's not bad enough, you play word games, where you make up your words with your wack-job meanings that no one use, but you.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
BTW, Bertrand Russel is one of the most evil men of the 20t century. You may want to find someone else to quote.
Read this .

Wow!! You really know how to find sites written by crazies for crazies. I have never heard of that organization so I poked around it a bit. They are all rouchies there. You are probably too young to know him. Odds are you you were not even born when Lyndon LaRouche ran for President. Eight different times. Once from prison. He was definitely an oddball. You can learn more about him here:


But seriously can't you tell from a website that it was probably not written by someone that even graduated from high school just by how unprofessional that it looks? This is not what one would call a reliable source.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Wow!! You really know how to find sites written by crazies for crazies. I have never heard of that organization so I poked around it a bit. They are all rouchies there. You are probably too young to know him. Odds are you you were not even born when Lyndon LaRouche ran for President. Eight different times. Once from prison. He was definitely an oddball. You can learn more about him here:


But seriously can't you tell from a website that it was probably not written by someone that even graduated from high school just by how unprofessional that it looks? This is not what one would call a reliable source.
Thanks for posting this. It sounds like a stellar organization. Why would someone look to this as evidence to support a particular interpretation of the Bible?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I await evidence that anything has been "proven" by the OP.

I'll be pushing up daisies and that evidence will still not have been posted here or anywhere.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Once again, we see the malicious attempts to avoid responsibility and avoid supporting claims. There is only one reason I can think of for this tactic and it is that the claimant cannot support their claims, so they have to do what they can to damage the credibility of others. Is that good Christian witness?
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
I believe that the claim now is that waiting for evidence for the claims of others is a blindness and bias.

Is this the same as saying, "if you expect evidence or support of claims from the creationist position, you'll go blind first"?
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
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Document how any hand evolved, Give times and descriptions of all proteins and genes involved and of course the actual species involved. Also document how this was possible given sexual reproduction.
Also include all calculations and give the location of where the fossil evidences were found and all dating information with properly documented error ranges.
Evolutionists have made the claim and so you must prove it.
I will want the same for 100s of other irreducibly complex organs and functions. For example fingers and the amount in each species.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Document how any hand evolved, Give times and descriptions of all proteins and genes involved and of course the actual species involved. Also document how this was possible given sexual reproduction.
Also include all calculations and give the location of where the fossil evidences were found and all dating information with properly documented error ranges.
Evolutionists have made the claim and so you must prove it.
I will want the same for 100s of other irreducibly complex organs and functions. For example fingers and the amount in each species.
Sorry, but you do not get to make any demands until you change your ways.

Demonstrate that you can be honest and acknowledge when your posts have been refuted. Learn what is and what is not evidence. And of course yo need to learn what the scientific method is and how to apply it.

Do that and you can ask any questions that you want.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
The evolution of the hand is well-documented. If a person really wanted to know anything about it, the information is available from scientists that specialize in the study of those things. Demanding that non-scientists that don't specialize in the evolution of particular structures produce evidence and demonstrate to a person that hasn't shown any real interest in this documentation and any evidence is a tactic. Essentially, if they don't get what they demand, then they declare the science false and and all they believe is true by default. Throwing in the origin of sexual reproduction is a red herring to boot.

Setting aside the fact that the burden of proof to demonstrate that the hand did not evolve actually exists with the one making demands, the failure to get what is demanded is a tactic to declare their undemonstrated belief is reality by default. It is an old tactic that has never worked, but that doesn't prevent it from being used again and again. As evidence here.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
The evolution of the hand is well-documented. If a person really wanted to know anything about it, the information is available from scientists that specialize in the study of those things. Demanding that non-scientists that don't specialize in the evolution of particular structures produce evidence and demonstrate to a person that hasn't shown any real interest in this documentation and any evidence is a tactic. Essentially, if they don't get what they demand, then they declare the science false and and all they believe is true by default. Throwing in the origin of sexual reproduction is a red herring to boot.

Setting aside the fact that the burden of proof to demonstrate that the hand did not evolve actually exists with the one making demands, the failure to get what is demanded is a tactic to declare their undemonstrated belief is reality by default. It is an old tactic that has never worked, but that doesn't prevent it from being used again and again. As evidence here.
I see no details, and no science.
Evolution falsifiEd by your lack of answer.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Wow! I have no evidence and no reason to consider that my answering or not answering incoherent posts denying science and declaring victory is a standard of science or used to falsify any theory.

It seems desperate to me. Another attempt to demean a poster due to an inability to address what that poster has posted.

I'm still laughing.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Wow! I have no evidence and no reason to consider that my answering or not answering incoherent posts denying science and declaring victory is a standard of science or used to falsify any theory.

It seems desperate to me. Another attempt to demean a poster due to an inability to address what that poster has posted.

I'm still laughing.
Cop outs make you look childish.
The theory of evolution and billions of years is a lie and indefensible. Obviously you cannot answer what the origin of anything is.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Cop outs make you look childish.
The theory of evolution and billions of years is a lie and indefensible. Obviously you cannot answer what the origin of anything is.
Sorry, it is not a cop out when you refuse to learn. But you do provide light entertainment. And serve as a real world example of the dangers of religious indoctrination.
 
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