The blind faith of the evolutionists

[Ouroboros]

It happened naturally because the designer planned for it to be so,similar to what we do with temperature and voltage control by the regulators.

There's several flaws with the comparison.

The biggest flaw is that an integrated circuit is highly optimized as a design for its purpose.

In a human body, over 90% of the DNA is non-coding. It's not used. It's not completely "junk", but it's not coding any proteins.

Our body (and the same goes for animals) contain a huge amount of unnecessary or poor designed parts.

 

[Ouroboros]

Can you show examples that evolution is still happening right now ?

Natural Selection and Macroevolution in your lifetime – Starts With A Bang

7 Animals That Are Evolving Right Before Our Eyes | Cracked.com

8 Examples of Evolution in Action - Listverse

Wildlife and Habitat Conservation News: Elephants Evolve Smaller Tusks Due to Poaching

And much, much more...

 

[Ouroboros]

That's the problem with creationism....it can't be wrong about anything.

The true meaning of the word creationism is that you can "create" a new excuses and explanations to circumvent scientific discoveries.

 

[FearGod]

No. It's not.

It's a well educated understanding. Go to school, take some classes, and see for yourself.

That is a stupid thing to say,you don't have anything to offer except those silly comments ,read a book,go to school ..etc

When someone asked me about one point i'll try to explain it with my best knowledge,but it is a childish and stupid to say go to school.

Why then you are here to debate ? i felt as if i am speaking to a prominent scientist,who are you in this world ?

What the heck is this. ?

 

[Ouroboros]

But that isn't a good example for evolution as it is still bacteria.

Do you think the evolution of species from one kind to another is caused by a single mutation or multiple mutations that occurred several times through millions of years.

Speciation is only one part of the Evolutionary Theory.

Evolution also includes and explains the "bacteria evolving to another kind of bacteria."

Bacteria evolving to another type of bacteria IS evolution.

Now, speciation, the event what a species evolve to another species is a lot more complex to understand. First you have to understand evolution on its simplest form, like the one that was given to you as an example.

 

[FranklinMichaelV.3]

That is a stupid thing to say,you don't have anything to offer except those silly comments ,read a book,go to school ..etc

When someone asked me about one point i'll try to explain it with my best knowledge,but it is a childish and stupid to say go to school.

Why then you are here to debate ? i felt as if i am speaking to a prominent scientist,who are you in this world ?

What the heck is this. ?

How is telling someone to read books and go to school a silly and childish...and stupid thing to say?

Especially since people have been explaining evolution to you for a while now...

 

[Ouroboros]

But was it a single mutation or several multiple mutations that caused it.

Do you think human evolved from Apes due to a single mutation in one period of time or several mutations happened in several periods of time.

The main difference between two species (or "kinds") is the physical body (or more scientifically named phenotype). Phenotype is driven mostly by genes. There's not a 1-to-1 matche between phenotype and genotype because several genes can control the body plan. And environments and diet can also have effects on the phenotype. The genes that control the body plan usually falls under what's called hox genes. Hox genes have been mapped out for several species, and there's more and more knowledge how you can make very small changes to a hox gene and make a large change in body "design". So... basically, the hox genes controls the body plan, and by mutating the hox genes you can change the body (number of arms, numbers of legs, numbers of heads, etc).

 

[FearGod]

But you don't believe in Evolution right?

I believe in evolution in the sense that one stage ended and a new creation evolved from the previous one by the plan of the creator,i may say a new evolved creation.

 

[LuisDantas]

I believe in evolution in the sense that one stage ended and a new creation evolved from the previous one by the plan of the creator,i may say a new evolved creation.

That is simply not what the actual evidence shows, though.

 

[LuisDantas]

That is a stupid thing to say,

Hardly.

you don't have anything to offer except those silly comments ,read a book,go to school ..etc

When someone asked me about one point i'll try to explain it with my best knowledge,but it is a childish and stupid to say go to school.

Is it any worse than attempting to deny what has actually been found by study and research?

Why then you are here to debate ? i felt as if i am speaking to a prominent scientist,who are you in this world ?

What the heck is this. ?

It does not take a hotshot to be aware of the basics of the ToE.

 

[FearGod]

No; however, biologist, those who study such things, are seeing it happen today. HERE are eight examples.

Those in the link are about adaptation and not about evolving to a different kind of species.

Because evolution is not goal directed like inventions are.

How do you know it isn't a goal directed

 

[LuisDantas]

FearGod, you can't in good faith expect others to feel responsible for your lack of proper education about the subjects you want to argue about.

 

[Ouroboros]

That is a stupid thing to say,you don't have anything to offer except those silly comments ,read a book,go to school ..etc

No. It's not silly. Simply because it is a rather complex topic.

And... it might surprise you but your questions are answered if you take a class in biological/physical anthropology.

When someone asked me about one point i'll try to explain it with my best knowledge,but it is a childish and stupid to say go to school.

Because you're not listening... no. Actually, the problem is, you post silly questions on a forum without trying to do any research or education on your own first.

The person who is silly and childish here is the person who asks silly questions without taking their silly butt to action and do something about it, like reading a book or going to school.

Why then you are here to debate ? i felt as if i am speaking to a prominent scientist,who are you in this world ?

Who am I? Someone who is trying to get you off your butt and educate yourself instead of asking silly questions.

What the heck is this. ?

You mean someone who is constantly asking the same silly questions without trying to read up on the answers you can find in scientific literature? Other than that, I don't know. Maybe it's a person who needs to do some research on their own. No, wait. I think it might be someone who just doesn't want to know but just ask silly questions and ignore the answers.

 

[FearGod]

That is simply not what the actual evidence shows, though.

How ?
Would you pls illustrate ?

 

[gnostic]

Countless evidences,so evidences are with no limits,are you saying that you have more than a million of them,can you bring a source that count 100 of them.

Don't take "countless" too literally, feargod. :sigh:

It simply mean that I don't know exactly how much evidences are out there, because I have not PERSONALLY count them.

For a person like yourself, who is well-versed, should be able to read metaphors or similes in the Qur'an, not to take everything literally.

I don't remember the exact wordings in the verse, nor do I remember which verse it come from in the Qur'an, but it described the stars as being the flame of candles or lamps. Surely, you wouldn't take this verse to mean LITERAL "candles" or "lamps", would you?

So if I use such expression with something, like "countless" in this expression, you shouldn't take it says literal.

For instance, if I ask you to pick up handful of sand, and ask you "how many sand are in your hand?" Would you really going to count them, one by one?

 

[FearGod]

FearGod, you can't in good faith expect others to feel responsible for your lack of proper education about the subjects you want to argue about.

And why the ones whom were asked about evolution in the posted video were looked as stupids to me,that video showing how stupid they were and that gave me an impression that they are indeed so.:sorry1:

 

[Ouroboros]

Two points I want to make:

1. I spent money and time to read books with hundreds of pages. To explain everything in evolution and what I've learned in just a few paragraphs is a silly requirement. It takes time and effort to learn the details of science and evolution as well.

2. I don't know much about Islam. If I wanted to know what the Qur'an says and have some insights into Islam, it would not be silly to consider to go to a class, read the Qur'an, or even just read a book about Islam. It would be intellectually laziness from my end if I refused to educate myself and just ask silly questions on a forum and expect to have everything handed to me in a few paragraphs. The same goes for evolution. Some things are very evident to understand and are explained if you just read a book about it or simply google it. To just throw silly questions out there and expect professional 500 pages essays as a responses that will only take you 3 seconds to read and comprehend, is a childish expectation.

 

[Ouroboros]

A 100 evidences for evolution? Maybe not that many (except for about 500,000 fossils), but at least 29: 29+ Evidences for Macroevolution: The Scientific Case for Common Descent

 

[FearGod]

No. It's not silly. Simply because it is a rather complex topic.

And... it might surprise you but your questions are answered if you take a class in biological/physical anthropology.


Because you're not listening... no. Actually, the problem is, you post silly questions on a forum without trying to do any research or education on your own first.

The person who is silly and childish here is the person who asks silly questions without taking their silly butt to action and do something about it, like reading a book or going to school.


Who am I? Someone who is trying to get you off your butt and educate yourself instead of asking silly questions.


You mean someone who is constantly asking the same silly questions without trying to read up on the answers you can find in scientific literature? Other than that, I don't know. Maybe it's a person who needs to do some research on their own. No, wait. I think it might be someone who just doesn't want to know but just ask silly questions and ignore the answers.

I don't accept rubbish explanations,sorry

 

[The Sum of Awe]

What prevent you of thinking that the human species before 12000 years was a new creation that evolved from the previous one ?

Wouldn't that in itself be blind faith?