The Challenge in the Qur'an

[riverfox]

well the problem there my friend is that most non Muslims don't see the Quran as anything special in the first place do they. so what do we go by a majority verdict? or is it up to each individual to judge for himself?

Qur'an's challenge: O Non-Muslims if you don't see the Quran as anything special,Then produce a sura like it.You can not, until now no one did right ?.Produce it and we all will compare to the holy Qur'an and see if it's truly like it. Now produce then we'll discuus it.

 

[riverfox]

I believe the Guru Granth Sahib is equal to the Qur'an in its artistic value, beauty and the meaning behind its text.

Does that mean the Qur'an's challenge has been met?
Didn't think so. It's an impossible challenge to meet, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Not Yet.
What is the miracle behind Guru Granth Sahib ?

 

[kai]

Qur'an's challenge: O Non-Muslims if you don't see the Quran as anything special,Then produce a sura like it.You can not, until now no one did right ?.Produce it and we all will compare to the holy Qur'an and see if it's truly like it. Now produce then we'll discuus it.

correction no one did according to Muslims, and no one is likely to according to muslims are they? and when you say we all will compare it you mean all those that can be bothered. Its still not much of a challenge because we dont have a judge, you say that we all judge it, i have to ask you where you got this from?

 

[kai]

Not Yet.
What is the miracle behind Guru Granth Sahib ?

do you base your own faith on miracles riverfox?

 

[kai]

I believe the Guru Granth Sahib is equal to the Qur'an in its artistic value, beauty and the meaning behind its text.

Does that mean the Qur'an's challenge has been met?
Didn't think so. It's an impossible challenge to meet, as beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

I think a new criteria has been set you now need a miracle.

 

[England my lionheart]

Not Yet.
What is the miracle behind Guru Granth Sahib ?

One could ask what is the miracle behind the Quran?

 

[kai]

One could ask what is the miracle behind the Quran?

Please ---dont ask:no:

 

[England my lionheart]

Please ---dont ask:no:

AHHHHHHGH the vortex

 

[riverfox]

correction no one did according to Muslims, and no one is likely to according to muslims are they? and when you say we all will compare it you mean all those that can be bothered. Its still not much of a challenge because we dont have a judge, you say that we all judge it, i have to ask you where you got this from?

Yes no one did,if you believe something else then produce your Sura like the Qur'an.

 

[kai]

Yes no one did,if you believe something else then produce your Sura like the Qur'an.

you spin me right round riverfox right round,round,round, like a record baby right round,round,round.


i cant do this anymore:no:

 

[England my lionheart]

you spin me right round riverfox right round,round,round, like a record baby right round,round,round.


i cant do this anymore:no:

LOL i tried to frubal but i'm over the limit

 

[kai]

252 posts and were full circle right back at the beginning.

 

[riverfox]

One could ask what is the miracle behind the Quran?

Of course
hundreds of miracles,Please everybody i'm asking you,before you frustrate them. try to reply to them,and answer how could people 1400 years ago know all these
Books have been written at that time on scientific facts ? Show them..

THE UNIVERSE IN GASEOUS STATE Then He turned to the heavens, and it was in a gaseous state. And said to it, and the earth; “Come into existence, willingly or unwillingly.” They said, “We come willingly.”
41-Elucidated, 11

PERFECT ORBITS7- By the Sky with its ingeniously devised paths (orbits).
51-The Dispersing, 7

SEX IN PLANTS53- And has sent down water from the sky. With it have We produced diverse pairs of plants.
20-Ta-He, 53

3- ...And fruit of every kind He made in pairs two and two.
13-The Thunder, 3

 

[kai]

OH england you have done it now man, head for the hills the miracles are coming and smokey robinson is no where in sight.

 

[riverfox]

you spin me right round riverfox right round,round,round, like a record baby right round,round,round.


i cant do this anymore:no:

You don't even want to try to meet this challenge right ?
2.24
But if ye cannot, and of a surety ye cannot, then fear the fire whose fuel is Men and Stones, which is prepared for those who reject Faith.

 

[kai]

You don't even want to try to meet this challenge right ?
2.24
But if ye cannot, and of a surety ye cannot, then fear the fire whose fuel is Men and Stones, which is prepared for those who reject Faith.

what challenge are you completely unaware of the fact that you havnt answered any of my questions. Mohammed (pbuh) issued this challenge to the Arabs and he is no longer with us . who gives you authority to reissue it to me.?

 

[riverfox]

what challenge are you completely unaware of the fact that you havnt answered any of my questions. Mohammed (pbuh) issued this challenge to the Arabs and he is no longer with us . who gives you authority to reissue it to me.?

Allah (swt) who issued this challenge to all people who are in doubt as to what He has revealed.
O ye people! Adore your Guardian-Lord, who created you and those who came before you, that ye may have the chance to learn righteousness;Who has made the earth your couch, and the heavens your canopy; and sent down rain from the heavens; and brought forth therewithFruits for your sustenance; then set not up rivals unto Allah when ye know(the truth).And if ye are in doubt as to what We have revealed from time to time to Our servant, then produce a Sura like thereunto; and call yourwitnesses or helpers (If there are any) besides Allah, if your (doubts) aretrue.But if ye cannot- and of a surety ye cannot- then fear the Fire whose fuel is men and stones,- which is prepared for those who reject Faith.But give glad tidings to those who believe and work righteousness, that their portion is Gardens, beneath which rivers flow.Every time they are fed with fruits therefrom, they say: "Why, this is whatwe were fed with before," for they are given things in similitude; and they have therein companions pure (and holy); and they abide therein (forever).
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See ? People not only Arabs.

Mohammed (pbuh) issued ....

BTW Kai..thank you for your Peace du'aa to Muhmmad (Peace be upon him) you are a very kind debater .

 

[Riverwolf]

Qur'an's challenge: O Non-Muslims if you don't see the Quran as anything special,Then produce a sura like it.You can not, until now no one did right ?.Produce it and we all will compare to the holy Qur'an and see if it's truly like it. Now produce then we'll discuus it.

Bhagavad-Gita.

 

[Princess Of Peace]

You don't even want to try to meet this challenge right ?
2.24
But if ye cannot, and of a surety ye cannot, then fear the fire whose fuel is Men and Stones, which is prepared for those who reject Faith.

Do you speak Arabic?
What do you think of the attemps on this site? suralikeit.com

 

[Breathe]

Not Yet.
What is the miracle behind Guru Granth Sahib ?

It's awesome?

Rhymes, poetry, unchanged, and it has poetry for multiple different emotions such as sadness, anger, fear, etc. I don't know about "miracles" though, but the Qur'an... no, I'm not getting into that.