The contributions of the sciences to Religion

[prometheus11]

Haha!
I'll have to spend some time thinking about this one



Well those are entirely esoteric claims
and there is no way that i can repeat them.

Science demands that they must be repeated.

Tell me where i can buy this 'fall in love scanning device'?
If it worked it would be available for sale on every street corner.

If you understood how women think you would realize that.
Have you not noticed the massive market that especially women take part in
like perfumes and romance lit, and romance movies, etc?

What's more, if chemicals in the brain can describe 'fall in love'
then it would be entirely possible to artificially replicate this and thus
it would be entirely possible to drug someone into falling in love with you.

You really have not thought through your esoteric claims
and do nothing more than to copy-paste what is the most
ridiculous claim to pseudoscience I have read this year.

Here in Africa, on every corner is a Juju man selling 'fall in love muti'.
Totally guaranteed!
Of course!

Machines that measure brain states are millions of dollars and don't fit in jeans pockets.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I know it because you're so predictable. Your statements are easily refuted, but at the sign of the first crack, you retreat to irrelevant claims of superior spiritual vision. Boring...

Only in the delusions of your conceptual mind....what's going to happen when your body is dead...no brain to think with....what is left of you?

 

[prometheus11]

Only in the delusions of your conceptual mind....what's going to happen when your body is dead...no brain to think with....what is left of you?

Memories in the minds of the living.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

That's my point. It might have appeared like "prescience", but it was most likely just a coincidence.

Haha,,,,so now you change back again....that why you have no credibility leibowde84, you seem to be only interested in being a contrarian pest...

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Memories in the minds of the living.

What sort of memories....good or bad?

 

[prometheus11]

What sort of memories....good or bad?

Not my concern.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Not my concern.

Yes...it really doesn't matter anyway, as memories are also mental constructs and thus illusionary....only that which is an integral of the oneness is not illusion....so any memories of you would be illusions of illusions....haha..

 

[prometheus11]

Yes...it really doesn't matter anyway, as memories are also mental constructs and thus illusionary....only that which is an integral of the oneness is not illusion....so any memories of you would be illusions of illusions....haha..

Quite.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

You are by suggesting anyone that does not accept your baseless claims is blind. Nevermind that you never substantiated your case at all. You just blame others for your inability.


Wrong as logic must also be sound. Soundness require evidence which you failed to produce.


Your analogy fails as blindness is a know condition while your "sight" of the unsupported is another empty claim made by you to support your tripe.

Your confirmation bias is showing through....your beliefs are unsubstantiated...

 

[Shad]

Your confirmation bias is showing through....your beliefs are unsubstantiated...

Nope. You have zero evidence for your claims hence not accepting your claims is justified.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

Nope. You have zero evidence for your claims hence not accepting your claims is justified.

Enough of this to and fro...I have self evidence, but no objective evidence....you have neither, and require objective evidence...let's leave it at that..

 

[Shad]

Enough of this to and fro...I have self evidence, but no objective evidence....you have neither, and require objective evidence...let's leave it at that..

I have self-evidence you are wrong. This is prime example of why subjectivity is flawed and a horrible argument.

 

[Ben Dhyan]

I have self-evidence you are wrong. This is prime example of why subjectivity is flawed and a horrible argument.

There is no argument...I am stating a fact that I have experienced esp....that is all.. You are free to say conclusions drawn from subjective evidence can be flawed and I can agree many can be....but in my case...I have studied esp over many decades and kept a dream diary for 10 years...

 

[Shad]

There is no argument...I am stating a fact that I have experienced esp....that is all.. You are free to say conclusions drawn from subjective evidence can be flawed and I can agree many can be....but in my case...I have studied esp over many decades and kept a dream diary for 10 years...

Then you can demonstrate it in a controlled environment and show the whole world you have this ability. Until you do so I can reasonable conclude that your claims have no merit and can be dismissed for such a reason.

 

[mystic64]

Maybe you misunderstood what I said, but there is confirmation bias when someone who believes that prescience is not common place, must question the suggestion in order to make himself right... It is natural that if you have not experienced prescience.....you do not know......accept it and understand you must lack esp...

ben d my friend you seem to be up to your tush in stuff and taking on all comers ! "Empathy", the ability to feel the thoughts and emotions of others. One's thoughts and feelings are "private" and folks that impose upon that privacy are persecuted because that privacy is being imposed upon. And folks that are true empaths learn at an early age to shut it off or at least to keep their mouth shut about it. Otherwise they are hunted to extiction if they prove it to be real. And they also shut it off because being a true empath is very painful because of the amount of unhappiness and fear that most of the folks around them are experiencing. When one tells folks that they are an empath with a high degree of esp, they are telling folks to be afraid of them because they can and will know the hidden thoughts of these folks. There is no place to hide. There is no privacy.

And that is only part one . Part two is that we are like CB radio sending and receiving units and most folks have only a 5 watt sending and receiving capacity, while at the sametime there are some folks that have a 25 or more watt sending and receiving capacity. And these folks with a higher sending and receiving capacity can step on the "emotions" of those with a lower sending and receiving capacity. The very beautiful people in Hollywood are classic examples of this. Their signal is so strong that they can step on other peoples signals and cause those folks to "feel" emotions and feelings that these folks can't/don't normally feel. And lets face it we all love it when they do it ! There are also very charismatic leaders in religion and politics that can do the samething. And sometimes they are helpful and sometimes they are dangerous because they do not feel any compassion for those that they are manipulating. The truly empathic do exist, but again lets face it, they are scary. They are like the X men and mutants of the comic book world. They have more or less abilities that normal people do not understand and are more or less vulnerable to. ben d, attempting to promote the existance of folks that have high esp/empathic abilities could be considered a dangerous thing to do , especially if you are one of those folks that have high esp/empathic abilities . Luckly nobody takes any of this stuff seriously and after all everybody knows that there is "no" and has "never" been any outerspace alien presence on this Earth !

 

[McBell]

**climbs up onto pontoon boat***

 

[Reflex]

Science has always contributed to the advance of religion and the concept of God by washing away superstition.

 

[mystic64]

Then you can demonstrate it in a controlled environment and show the whole world you have this ability. Until you do so I can reasonable conclude that your claims have no merit and can be dismissed for such a reason.

Ya ben ! And do you really want to ?!

 

[viole]

Science has always contributed to the advance of religion and the concept of God by washing away superstition.

You cannot wash away superstition, without washing away any concept of God we are aware of.

They all have the same evidence and plausibility. No measurably higher than the evidence that black cats bring bad luck.

Ciao

- viole

 

[mystic64]

Science has always contributed to the advance of religion and the concept of God by washing away superstition.

Hi Reflex and welcome to the message board!