The debate is on

[We Never Know]

It's always an excuse with these people.

It looks like Biden was put on on some meds to keep him 'sharp' for the debate.

I find it funny that "Trump will chicken out and won't show" has been replaced with "Biden had a cold".

 

[Twilight Hue]

Yes. Time to hit the rest button.

Or retire both parties same as the Federalists and Whigs did.

 

[We Never Know]

Only that its lies in the eyes of the biased.

The other half always thinks it's true.

Trump lied and Biden screwed the pooch.
Both sides need to accept reality and quit making excuses.

 

[Twilight Hue]

I find it funny that "Trump will chicken out and won't show" has been replaced with "Biden had a cold".

Shows the nature of their accuracy and the excuses following to cover up.

The sanctimonious and self assured crowd does things like that.

 

[Regiomontanus]

Or retire both parties same as the Federalists and Whigs did.

That we need more choices when it come to political parties, no doubt.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Neither of them are presidential material.
Biden is totally past it, and Trump is morally and mentally unsuitable.

 

[We Never Know]

It is my unpopular opinion that BOTH parties should seriously rethink their nominations and actually provide candidates that the American people can actually get behind.

Maybe that's why the debate was set 3-4 months earlier than usual.. To check out how they would perform.

It was the earliest presidentsl debate ever. They are usually held in Sept or Oct

 

[Twilight Hue]

Trump lied and Biden screwed the pooch.
Both sides need to accept reality and quit making excuses.

It would be preferable had both sides focused on their abilities rather then focus on someone else's flaws.

Great example of poor leadership without expressed plans of action to achieve a vision.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Maybe that's why the debate was set 3-4 months earlier than usual.. To check out how they would perform.

It was the earliest presidentsl debate ever. They are usually held in Sept or Oct

Do you think they will schedule another debate?

 

[Twilight Hue]

That we need more choices when it come to political parties, no doubt.

Yep. It's time and even the founding fathers expressly warned about 2 party dominance.

 

[We Never Know]

It would be preferable had both sides focused on their abilities rather then focus on someone else's flaws.

Great example of poor leadership without expressed plans of action to achieve a vision.

If anyone here carried out the amount of personal attacks that happened at the debate, they would be suspended or banned lol

 

[We Never Know]

Do you think they will schedule another debate?

Honestly... After last night... NO
However I think Trump will push for one.

 

[Yazata]

The New York Times seems to have adopted a new line:

 

[We Never Know]

It's been reported that he caught a cold which explains a lot. And with as much travelling as he's done I can see how that exposed him to it. He had a negative Covid test.

What symptoms of a cold did you see?

 

[Regiomontanus]

Yep. It's time and even the founding fathers expressly warned about 2 party dominance.

"...every generation needs a new revolution”

- Thomas Jefferson

 

[Pogo]

I think this points up one of the glaring weaknesses in the Democratic strategy these past several years. All they've really been doing is reacting to Trump and going on and on about how bad Trump is. This has allowed Trump to set the narrative and tone, when the Democrats might have been better off to take a completely different approach, something befitting a party which supposedly embraces progressivism and favors the working classes. Too many strange bedfellows have tied the Democrats' hands to the point where they can't put up their best fight anymore, Biden's physical ailments notwithstanding.

While I agree in general, that may be the best we can hope for considering the current state of civic understanding in this country. The Democratic party may be barely left of the conservative parties in Europe, but it is only left of center enough in this country to keep it relevant. It is not so much the policies that are the problem, but overcoming the ignorance of the electorate to what policies would actually help them since the Raygun's revolution. Unfortunately demagoguery is much easier than education.

Maybe we need a new version of Lenin?

 

[We Never Know]

"...every generation needs a new revolution”

- Thomas Jefferson

Would a revolution be considered an insurrection?

 

[Pogo]

Classic text book Pigeon Chess.

The really really sad part....

It worked.

I gave up after 15 minutes of Trump falsehoods and exaggerations and Biden's bad audio engineering that made him sound even softer than his normal constrained speech should have sounded. Maybe it was a cold, but then there are lots of drugs that could have overcome that would have been appropriate were that really the case. (former audio engineer here)

 

[Pogo]

Would a revolution be considered an insurrection?

History is written by the winners, but that was not what Jefferson was talking about.

 

[McBell]

It would be the same post.

Ouch.

Nevermind then.