the definition of cuckod between the Westerns and Muslims

[Meow Mix]

I danced in a strip club through much of my undergraduate studies. Depending on the club you'd be surprised what sort of degrees a number of strippers are actually working on attaining!

As far as I know, there was no prostitution. I certainly didn't engage in any.

 

[outhouse]

I danced in a strip club through much of my undergraduate studies. Depending on the club you'd be surprised what sort of degrees a number of strippers are actually working on attaining!

As far as I know, there was no prostitution. I certainly didn't engage in any.

LOl I worked for a man who owned a strip club, many of the dancers we sold Infinitis to.

They all freely admitted money for sex was their living.

While there were girls who had husbands and futures and lived normal lives, most were in fact proffessionals.



wish I could get $700 a night for dancing alone lol

 

[outhouse]

Can muslim women not control theirselves around such produce??



Muslim Cleric's Warning: Cucumbers Too Sexy for Women

Published December 08, 2011



An Islamic cleric living in Europe reportedly has warned Muslim women not to get too close to bananas, cucumbers or other produce -- to avoid having “sexual thoughts.”



The unnamed cleric, whose directive was featured in an article in el-Senousa, a religious publication, purportedly said that if women wanted to eat these foods, a third party -- preferably a male related to them, such as their father or husband -- should cut the items into small pieces before serving, the Egyptian website Bikya Masr reported

 

[outhouse]

Carrots and zucchini also were added to the alleged cleric's list of forbidden foods for women.

 

[beenie]

Can muslim women not control theirselves around such produce??



Muslim Cleric's Warning: Cucumbers Too Sexy for Women

Published December 08, 2011



An Islamic cleric living in Europe reportedly has warned Muslim women not to get too close to bananas, cucumbers or other produce -- to avoid having “sexual thoughts.”



The unnamed cleric, whose directive was featured in an article in el-Senousa, a religious publication, purportedly said that if women wanted to eat these foods, a third party -- preferably a male related to them, such as their father or husband -- should cut the items into small pieces before serving, the Egyptian website Bikya Masr reported

Carrots and zucchini also were added to the alleged cleric's list of forbidden foods for women.

Still laughing. :biglaugh: I'm hungry; off to get that uncut banana.

 

[outhouse]

Still laughing. :biglaugh: I'm hungry; off to get that uncut banana.

LOL your ruining the supprise :angel2:

I was bating the OP just a wee little bit

 

[outhouse]

:hotdog::danana::danana::danana::hotdog:




OMG im a perv LOL

 

[Debater Slayer]

The thread title "between Westerns and Muslims" is pretty inaccurate. Being "Western" doesn't necessitate not being a Muslim. There are a lot of Muslim communities in Western countries, some of them even more devout than many Arab Muslims.

However, if you mean between Westerns and Arabs, it would be more precise (although both "Westerns" and "Arabs" would still be very broad blanket terms).

 

[beenie]

:hotdog::danana::danana::danana::hotdog:




OMG im a perv LOL

:biglaugh: You are such a PERV!!

 

[Draka]

The thread title "between Westerns and Muslims" is pretty inaccurate. Being "Western" doesn't necessitate not being a Muslim. There are a lot of Muslim communities in Western countries, some of them even more devout than many Arab Muslims.

However, if you mean between Westerns and Arabs, it would be more precise (although both "Westerns" and "Arabs" would still be very broad blanket terms).

It's like that stupid idea that one hears thrown around every so often. That you can't be a Muslim AND be an American. As I heard one woman describe it, you can't be a "true" American and be a "true" Muslim. If a Muslim claims to be an American then they aren't a "true" Muslim, because Islam itself is against all that America stands for. Godobeyer seems to be arguing along the same lines, only from the opposite direction.

 

[Godobeyer]

Godobeyer, how do you personally feel about a man who has sex before he gets married or outside of marriage? Obviously there has to be a man who is doing all this kissing, hugging, sexing, etc. with these "cuckod" women.

sex before mariage is forbiden . it's one for major sins .

 

[Godobeyer]

for exemple ,when the wife did not jeolous for his wife ,if some one make sex with her

sorry instead i wrote husband i wrote wife hhhhhhhhh

Do you mean that he should be jealous of she cheats? Sorry, dont entierly understand what you meant there

 

[Godobeyer]

Godobeyer, it seems to me that women who have been raised up relatively sheltered from males are relatively easier to have sex with than women who have been raised up relatively less sheltered from males. When I was young, it seemed the girls most likely to agree to casual sex were girls who had gone to all girl's schools, girls who had been home-schooled away from the boys, or even girls who had gone to school with boys, but who had been taught by their parent's to keep their distance from boys. At the time, I guessed the reason the sheltered girls were easy to get into bed had to do with their being inexperienced and lacking the confidence to say "no". On the other hand, the girls who had been less sheltered from boys were much more likely to be self-possessed, confident, and to assert themselves.

sorry it's my bad
my english level is not good enough , even i translate it to french and arabic i did not get it
by the way, where is the quetion ?

 

[Godobeyer]

Kissing in greeting has nothing to do with sex.

Christians kiss each other in church as a sign of peace, some do so on the lips. It is a normal part of the service.

The Anglo-Saxon races are less likely to kiss each other in greeting, but many now do so.
Russian men and women kiss each other fully on the lips. Men in the UK mostly shake hands with each other.

There are many differing cultural norms in the west.

Kissing or Hugging in greeting is normal between friends in the UK and has nothing to do with sex. Nor would a spouse be concerned in any way if it was done,if they were there or not.

It has nothing to do with betrayal, promiscuity, sex, loss of virginity, adultery or an invitation . it does not cause concern, jealousy, anger, loss of face or any other presumed slight.

It is normal friendship between people.

if you have a wife , you prefer that men kiss her, and dance with her afront you (in greeting , or not ?

 

[beenie]

sex before mariage is forbiden . it's one for major sins .

You didn't answer my question. Is a man considered cuckod for committing the same crime of zina? Is he held to the same judgment as her?

 

[Godobeyer]

Western culture is different. My wife is not my possession. If she wants to leave me, fine.

I've told her many times that there are better men than me out there, but they would not put up with the likes of her.

My wife and I made a vow to each other. We trust one another until we have reason not to. I value that trust. I do not have to worry all the time about little things.

If she was unfaithful to me, I would find out as would she about me.

for my experience the woman try always to imitate the other wifes in car , or house , (for exemple : she told her husband " did you see the new car of our neighbroad , it's better than yours " .....etc)
it's the same thing happend if her husband let her dance with some one , she will tell in" her mind " he is dancing better than my wife , and he is cute than him , and he tight me as i am in the bed wooooow .

Godobeyer, I want to ask you a question. Just because we have an opportunity to be bad, does that mean we will actually go through with this?

no , we are alwasy reach to be good , no one "intellingent " in the world choose the bad instead of good .

Can we not withstand temptation?

what you mean ? if a cuckold let you dancing with his wife in all positions , i don't blame you .i blame the couples the cuckold and his "wife" , for me i will never dance with any women , expect my wife .

If I had to worry all the time about my wife being unfaithful, to me that would imply that she would do something wrong the first chance she got. I don't believe that is true, but it looks that way. Where is the trust?

If I did not trust my wife, I would be rid of her and she me.

trust is just word , maybe it's true or false , if you had over trust , and if your wife use that trust badly , you will maybe take care with kids not belong to you .
all the men which be cheated or inverse , were put the trust in the other side .

i had exemple :
if you trust your wife does not forcely mean that you let her working in strips or adultery places until midnight ?
I mean if you tell your wife that you trust her , and she use this apporunity to ask you let her ,working in strip or dance club ,that mean you are just cuckold for my opinion .

I have confidence that I am a good man and no one on earth would treat my wife better than me. I have confidence that she loves me and wants to stay with me only

that's great my friend , that's the real meaning of this live .
God bless you and bless your wife .

 

[Godobeyer]

Dancing in our bedroom is not something that usually takes place. If it did, I'm not sure what type of healing it would have to be honest, I am no doctor either but I think that if healing is required then perhaps best call one . On a serious note, what does dancing in private with my husband got to do with dancing with him in public, two completely different things. Same as dancing with my huband is different from dancing with my father, brother, uncle, they are different people, different dances. [/QUOT]
ok , father and brother and uncle are family , my problem with dancing with "friends" and forgiens .

Oh noooo, don't imagine! Too late..... lol. I don't think it's dancing you are imagining.

I wish to dance with my futur wife.

Many here marry with love, they meet, fall in love and get married. Love is in the equation from the beginning. I am not saying two people cannot fall in love after marriage but it simply is not my preferred route, I want to know someone before I commit my life to them. (certainly would like to know if they believe in "love slap" before marriage so I could :run. Look at the experiences, true experiences of where females on this forum have fallen victim to abusers, do you think they should have stayed with their abuser who "love slapped" them?

it's something could tell ,it's something feeling .
if you fall in love with some one , and slap you for something wrong you did it to him
, you will experience the "slap of love " .and i am sure will love him more and more .

I don't know, he has no reason to "not allow" since he trusts me. I don't work in that field so cannot comment. But if we take into account again what someone (Draka I think) told you earlier in this thread, her friend works in a strip club. She is not a prostitute, she does not sleep around. She is a confident, outgoing woman who is completely in control of what she does. (Draka - if it was your friend, I hope I have remembered it correctly, feel free to correct me)

awwwwwww, omg , don't tell me he will thinking if you ask him ?
and allowed you to strip afront the people ?
and if the inverse , if he would tell you that he want to work in strip club (he strips for the women ) would you accept ? or you trust him ?

Are you really wanting to go down that route with movies again? I think you are in danger of seriously offending some members here. Again, this is a movie, not real life, just a movie for entertainment purposes. Not all men in Paris/France, kidnap, rape and sell women into the sex trade. I have tried to explain to you before there is a massive difference between real life in the west to what the movies potray.

i am just joking

And neither will mine, I really wish you would read and take on board what others are trying to tell you on here. I have shown you a link to show that what you believe the Qur'an to be telling you conflicts the Qur'an itself as well as what the Phrophet taught.

yeah thanks you for that link but acuatly I told you most/majority of sholars are with "soft beat " , i am with most of sholars but does not mean that surely i will beat my wife .

 

[Godobeyer]

She isn't a dancer anymore. She used to work in a "Men's club" some years back. She had some health problems and had to have surgeries so could not continue to do that type of work. But, she was definitely not a prostitute. She was a dancer. Regardless of what some may think, it is not the same.

again , if your husband ask you to work in strip club or in adultery house, you will trust him and let him strip "get naked " afront in that club every night ?

 

[Photonic]

if you have a wife , you prefer that men kiss her, and dance with her afront you (in greeting , or not ?

That wouldn't bother me if I knew them personally, no.

 

[Draka]

again , if your husband ask you to work in strip club or in adultery house, you will trust him and let him strip "get naked " afront in that club every night ?

I believe I already mentioned that I had been in relationships with male dancers/strippers. If my current were to have opportunity to do the same and wanted to...I'd be in the front row, cheering him on, bragging to the other women around me "That's my sexy man!"