• Welcome to Religious Forums, a friendly forum to discuss all religions in a friendly surrounding.

    Your voice is missing! You will need to register to get access to the following site features:
    • Reply to discussions and create your own threads.
    • Our modern chat room. No add-ons or extensions required, just login and start chatting!
    • Access to private conversations with other members.

    We hope to see you as a part of our community soon!

The first living thing could not have come into being by random chance, therefore, God Almighty created all things. Just 1 proof.

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
And it is a triceratops for all the world to see.
Sure. I could make one too. I know about triceratops. Just like the 20 Century farmers that crafted these "ancient" artifacts.

I once watched a fish I had caught leap from the bucket I was keeping it in and flip and flop frantically trying to reach water. I watched it for a minute or so as it flipped and flopped in the wrong direction and then put it back in the bucket.

Reading your posts and posts like them always make me think of that fish. It was delicious.
 

Dan From Smithville

He who controls the spice controls the universe.
Staff member
Premium Member
I think that is from a documentary series I saw once. It's called the Flintstones.
I suppose the right pair of rose-colored glasses could more that into a documentary of man co-existing with dinosaurs. You would think there were be some solid evidence if this were remotely true. On top of that, it wouldn't falsify the theory of evolution. The theory doesn't claim dinosaurs must be extinct. It doesn't claim anything about a specific species or group of species.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Or a burrow wearing a triceratops helmet and some guys old boots. What passes for evidence for these wild claims is something I find sad.
And there are 33,000 others and many look vey much like dinosaurs. Did you forget them?
Evolution is false and dumb to say the least.
A man with an IQ of 120 or above thinks they are a genius.
A solid majority thinks they are smarter than most.
But Satan, if they has an IQ test that could measure that high. maybe has an IQ of 1 million.
Of course, God's intelligence and wisdom is infinite.
So I just study and read the word of the Almighty God.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
Evolution is false and dumb to say the least.

No, what is wrong and ignorant is the fact that you repeatedly post Gish Gallop, dismiss any answers that clearly refute your arguments out of hand while accusing others of failing to meet your bogus challenge because you dislike the refutations that clearly contradict your beliefs, and then have the audacity to declare victory in these debates because you adamantly refuse to accept any successful refutations that demonstrate that your beliefs are incorrect.
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
No, what is wrong and ignorant is the fact that you repeatedly post Gish Gallop, dismiss any answers that clearly refute your arguments out of hand while accusing others of failing to meet your bogus challenge because you dislike the refutations that clearly contradict your beliefs, and then have the audacity to declare victory in these debates because you adamantly refuse to accept any successful refutations that demonstrate that your beliefs are incorrect.
There have been no real answers to any question. What are you talking about?
You can give the official answers to all these.
Or is evolution the theory of Nothing?

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?

If there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that breaks cause and effect.

It also violates every law of conservation too.

If there was something before that, what caused the thing that was before the Big Bang to come into being?

If that thing always, existed that violates the law of increasing entropy.

If that thing has not always existed what was there before the thing that was prior our universe to come into being?

Please continue this until you get something that has always been.

And then that will violate the law of increasing entropy.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Where did all matter come from? Where did antimatter?

Where did all energy come from?

Where did all the protons come from? neutrons? photons? neutrinos? All the quarks? Gluons? Muons? All the anti-particles?

Where did the gravitation force come from? The strong force? The weak force? The electromagnetic force?

What came first, the chicken or the egg? If you are going to put that off and try to work back to the first egg, what came first that egg of the creature that laid it.

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved into sexual reproduction. Without all things working the switch over leads to the destruction of the creature. But there is no survival advantage to the incomplete system.

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved. It too is irreducibly complex.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
There have been no real answers to any question. What are you talking about?
You can give the official answers to all these.
Or is evolution the theory of Nothing?

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?

If there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that breaks cause and effect.

It also violates every law of conservation too.

If there was something before that, what caused the thing that was before the Big Bang to come into being?

If that thing always, existed that violates the law of increasing entropy.

If that thing has not always existed what was there before the thing that was prior our universe to come into being?

Please continue this until you get something that has always been.

And then that will violate the law of increasing entropy.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Where did all matter come from? Where did antimatter?

Where did all energy come from?

Where did all the protons come from? neutrons? photons? neutrinos? All the quarks? Gluons? Muons? All the anti-particles?

Where did the gravitation force come from? The strong force? The weak force? The electromagnetic force?

What came first, the chicken or the egg? If you are going to put that off and try to work back to the first egg, what came first that egg of the creature that laid it.

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved into sexual reproduction. Without all things working the switch over leads to the destruction of the creature. But there is no survival advantage to the incomplete system.

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved. It too is irreducibly complex.
Oh my. Another Gish Gallop.
 

Secret Chief

Veteran Member
There have been no real answers to any question. What are you talking about?
You can give the official answers to all these.
Or is evolution the theory of Nothing?

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?

If there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that breaks cause and effect.

It also violates every law of conservation too.

If there was something before that, what caused the thing that was before the Big Bang to come into being?

If that thing always, existed that violates the law of increasing entropy.

If that thing has not always existed what was there before the thing that was prior our universe to come into being?

Please continue this until you get something that has always been.

And then that will violate the law of increasing entropy.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Where did all matter come from? Where did antimatter?

Where did all energy come from?

Where did all the protons come from? neutrons? photons? neutrinos? All the quarks? Gluons? Muons? All the anti-particles?

Where did the gravitation force come from? The strong force? The weak force? The electromagnetic force?

What came first, the chicken or the egg? If you are going to put that off and try to work back to the first egg, what came first that egg of the creature that laid it.

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved into sexual reproduction. Without all things working the switch over leads to the destruction of the creature. But there is no survival advantage to the incomplete system.

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved. It too is irreducibly complex.
Yet more Sealioning - Wikipedia

Dishonest posting aka trolling.
 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.
There have been no real answers to any question. What are you talking about?
You can give the official answers to all these.
Or is evolution the theory of Nothing?

Where did the universe come from?

If the explanation is the Bing Bang with or without inflation, what was there before that?

If there was nothing before the Big Bang, then that breaks cause and effect.

It also violates every law of conservation too.

If there was something before that, what caused the thing that was before the Big Bang to come into being?

If that thing always, existed that violates the law of increasing entropy.

If that thing has not always existed what was there before the thing that was prior our universe to come into being?

Please continue this until you get something that has always been.

And then that will violate the law of increasing entropy.

Where did the laws of nature come from?

Where did all matter come from? Where did antimatter?

Where did all energy come from?

Where did all the protons come from? neutrons? photons? neutrinos? All the quarks? Gluons? Muons? All the anti-particles?

Where did the gravitation force come from? The strong force? The weak force? The electromagnetic force?

What came first, the chicken or the egg? If you are going to put that off and try to work back to the first egg, what came first that egg of the creature that laid it.

What was the first living thing made of? Was it DNA? Was it RNA? Was it just proteins? Was it some mix?

What was its code? How many codons was it? When did it come into being?

Where did it come into being? In space? In the atmosphere? In the ocean? In a tide pool?

In clay or mud? What protected it from UV rays? What was the composition of the atmosphere at that time?

If it was in water, how did the amino acids keep from being dissipated by the water?

What was the energy source for these reactions?

Where there any enzymes in it? Which ones? Certain required reactions need enzymes as catalysts. If not, the reaction may take a vast number of years. Surely the primitive thing could not last more than a minute much less than many years/

How did it survive? Where did the protective layer come from? What was the protected layer? How did that part get reproduced?

What was its food source? How did it remove waste? How did it repair itself?

Please explain how it was ever able to reproduce itself.

If the first living thing was just proteins, how did it ever get evolve to use RNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

If it was RNA based, how did it to ever evolve to use DNA? It is irreducibly complex. You need all the parts to be working for it not to be destruction.

There should be millions of chains of missing links. All are missing. Why?

They should be finding missing links every day. Why not?

Please explain how anything that is irreducibly complex evolves.

Please explain how the eye came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how flight came to be. It is irreducibly complex. It happened independently more than once. Please explain all of these.

Please explain how blood clotting came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how the first multi cell creature came to be.

Please explain how the bone tissue came to be.

Please explain how the citrus cycle came to be. It is irreducibly complex.

Please explain how ATP came to be and how the first creature that used it evolved that capability. The mechanism is irreducibly complex.

In fact, there are many things in living things that are irreducibly complex. Please explain how any of them evolved.

The science seems to have identified mitochondrial Eve and the recent origin of x chromosome Adam. This matches recent creation and destroys evolution. Why?

Short lived comets are a problem for long ages of the universe. Why?
Where are all the remains of all the people that have died? Where are all their artifacts? If mankind has been around for 100,000 years, there must be a lot more than has been found. Why?

How do you explain the Cambrian explosion?

Why are there living fossils?

How does one explain polystrate trees?

How does one explain soft tissue and blood vessels in dinosaur tissue?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue with DNA and other biomolecules still being intact?

How does one explain dinosaur tissue, and diamonds that are not C-14 dead?

Why is there too much C-14 in some samples of coal and fossilized wood?

How do you explain parentless polonium 210 radiohaloes in granites?

How do you explain elliptical polonium 210 halos in the same strata with circular halos?

There is a great deception in some of the ages that are quoted by evolutionists. Why the deception?

There are inconsistencies in the radioactive dating results of many things. So isochron dating has been used. But even then, there are many large discrepancies. Why?

The inconsistencies in the dating of things and in all “clocks” used to set the age of things can be simply explained if some miraculous events occurred. These would be 6-day creation, the fall of man and the curse on creation and the worldwide flood about 4500 years ago.

What is the recipe for primordial soup, and can I buy a can of it?

There is a lack of a 50-50 racemization of amino acids in fossils. Why?

There are discontinuous fossil sequences in the fossil record. Why?

Oil, coal, and opals can be formed rapidly under certain conditions. Why the deception?

The evidence is that the coal beads and fossilized wood were formed rapidly. Why?

There are missing layers representing millions of years. Why?

Why are there ephemeral markings at the boundaries of layers? That shows rapid deposit.

If intelligent man was around for 100,000 years or so, why did he not figure out how to drop a seed in the ground and farm?

History is too short. Why?

The Great Barrier reef is only 4200 years old; the oldest tree is only 4300 years old. Why?

The age of the Sahara Desert is only 4000 years old. Why?



There is too much helium in radioactive rocks. Why?

There is helium in old zircon crystals. Why?

Thick sedimentary rock layers bent beyond the fracturing point, yet not fractured. Why?

The Mississippi river delta and deltas around the world show the result of one large flood like the worldwide flood. Why?

The arms of spiral galaxies should no longer exist, but they do. Why?

There is not enough helium in the earth’s atmosphere to support an old atmosphere. Why?

There is not enough sediment at the bottom of the sea to support an old earth. Why?

High speed objects in globular clusters show that they are young. Why?

Living fossils invalidate not only the age and origin of the sedimentary rock but refute evolution over eons.

The natural direction of life is degeneration not evolution.

The genetic load in all creatures means they would have ceased to exist after so much time. They have not. Why?

The DNA, RNA, and proteins with some of these being enzymes is a triply interconnected irreducibly complex system. Evolution could not be the mechanism to produce these.
There are depictions of dinosaurs from ancient cultures. Why?

Job 40:15-19 describes a plant eating dinosaur, probably Brachiosaurus. Why?

Almost all ancient cultures have a record of a worldwide blood and a remnant saved on a great boat, sometimes 8 people. How do explain that?

All population growth statistics invalidate mankind being around for more than 6000 years old but match only 8 people being saved in the ark. This matches the world at the time of Christ and today.

It does not seem that there is enough force for the Indian sub-continent to have crashed into Asia and raised the Himalayan Mountain range with just plate tectonics. Why?

The dim young sun paradox invalidates long ages for the sun, evolution, and life on the earth.

The rate of recession of the moon from the earth limits the age of the moon.

The rapid decline of the Earth’s magnetic strength limits the age of the earth. Why?

The salt content of the oceans is too low for an old earth. Why?

The concentration of various minerals in the ocean limits the age of the oceans. Why?

The rock layers show no signs of erosion between layers. Why?

There is no time between rock layers for slow deposition. Why?

There is not enough erosion of continental plates for an old earth. Why?

Earth is not cooled enough for it to be old. Why?

Earth’s rotation rate is slowing for it to be old. Why?
Haeckel’s drawings were not accurate, yet his drawings are still used for evolution. Why the fraud?

Nebraska man was not a man. Why the fraud?

The Milken experiment is a disaster for evolutionists. Why the deception.

Beware of the old con “the building blocks of life”. Why the deception?

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved into sexual reproduction. Without all things working the switch over leads to the destruction of the creature. But there is no survival advantage to the incomplete system.

Please explain how asexual reproduction evolved. It too is irreducibly complex.

Gish gallop: The Gish gallop (/ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/) is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality. The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist Eugenie Scott, who named it after American creationist Duane Gish and argued that Gish used the technique frequently when challenging the scientific fact of evolution.[1] - Gish gallop - Wikipedia

Gish gallop: The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique that involves overwhelming your opponent with as many arguments as possible, with no regard for the accuracy, validity, or relevance of those arguments. For example, a person using the Gish gallop might attempt to support their stance by bringing up, in rapid succession, a large number of vague claims, anecdotal statements, misinterpreted facts, and irrelevant comments.

Source: Gish Gallop: When People Try to Win Debates by Using Overwhelming Nonsense
 

SavedByTheLord

Well-Known Member
Gish gallop: The Gish gallop (/ˈɡɪʃ ˈɡæləp/) is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments. Gish galloping prioritizes the quantity of the galloper's arguments at the expense of their quality. The term was coined in 1994 by anthropologist Eugenie Scott, who named it after American creationist Duane Gish and argued that Gish used the technique frequently when challenging the scientific fact of evolution.[1]

Source: Gish gallop - Wikipedia

Gish gallop: The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique that involves overwhelming your opponent with as many arguments as possible, with no regard for the accuracy, validity, or relevance of those arguments. For example, a person using the Gish gallop might attempt to support their stance by bringing up, in rapid succession, a large number of vague claims, anecdotal statements, misinterpreted facts, and irrelevant comments.

Source: Gish Gallop: When People Try to Win Debates by Using Overwhelming Nonsense
C-14 where it should not be.

 

Sgt. Pepper

All you need is love.

Once again, you've demonstrated that your beliefs have rendered you quite ignorant of science, but you are definitely adept at posting Gish gallop.

It's evident to me, and I'm sure to others as well, that your beliefs have rendered you quite ignorant of science, but you're adept at posting Gish gallop.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
so everyone is lying who disagrees with the theory of nothing, aka, evolution.

No and please note. That article does not claim that they found DNA. The found proteins. Your sources lied. That proteins could survive for that long is very surprising but once again, it does not prove anything.

You need to learn what is and what is not evidence so that you can make a rational argument. For example I can explain to you how Lucy is evidence for human evolution. If you deny that fact you are only demonstrating ignorance. You cannot find any evidence because you refuse to learn the concept. You are tying bags of cement to your legs and then trying to enter a race. Of course one loses when one does that.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
In my opinion, creationist apologetics sites are about as reliable when it comes to scientific truths as tabloid magazines are when it comes to reporting genuine news. You can clearly see the confirmation bias when you read the "What We Believe" and the "Purpose" sections of this linked creationist site.
Now just wait one second missy! Don't go denigrating the Weekly World News:

1696110749057.png
 
Top