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The immigrant round up has begun.

McBell

Unbound
Who did he let in? As I understand it, his deportation numbers were unprecedented. Didn't they call him the Deporter-in-chief?
I believe it was Syrians he let in.
I remember cause he said something about not having to worry about them because they will all be given background checks that he previously claimed were ineffective.
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
I believe Obama let many people into the country that should have never been allowed, he was an idiot, and yes Trump will get rid of all those that were allowed in by stupid Obama, just drop the violins for awhile and start to think, you might learn something.

If you were so smart you'd know that there was a net loss of illegal immigrants under Obama's watch.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
I believe it was Syrians he let in.
I remember cause he said something about not having to worry about them because they will all be given background checks that he previously claimed were ineffective.
13,210 Syrian Refugees So Far in 2016; Up 675% from 2015; 99.1% Are Muslims
(CNSNews.com) – The Obama administration has resettled 13,210 Syrian refugees into the United States since the beginning of 2016 – an increase of 675 percent over the same 10-month period in 2015.
As I understand it, the refugees go through a vetting process that takes two years or more. CIA agents get less scrutiny.
Why are we such a fearful, paranoid people?

The day after the Paris attacks, France agreed to take in 30,000 new refugees. Which country is the land of the free and the home of the brave now?
 

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
Given that exact numbers are hard to peg, I'm not sure how a claim like this can actually fly.

Its the economy, "stupid", there's a shortage of jobs for illegal immigrants and they've been voluntarily going back south, more so than the new immigrants taking their place.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
Given that exact numbers are hard to peg, I'm not sure how a claim like this can actually fly.

Using statistical methods you could estimate a loss or gain. I am not sure if that is what is being referred to, but it could be done with a reasonable level of uncertainty.
 

esmith

Veteran Member
What is your position then?
Position on what exactly?
On the below exchange.
Why? What's the difference between deporting illegal aliens for criminal or non-criminal actions or legal aliens for criminal or non-criminal actions?
"Why?"
It is a straw man because you are trying to superimpose a position on me that I don't hold. I am not going to argue your straw man as if it was my position.
 

YmirGF

Bodhisattva in Recovery
Using statistical methods you could estimate a loss or gain. I am not sure if that is what is being referred to, but it could be done with a reasonable level of uncertainty.
That and the inconvenient truth about statistics, one can always massage the data to reflect virtually any given conclusion. Nothing simpler, really.
 

Jeremiahcp

Well-Known Jerk
That and the inconvenient truth about statistics, one can always massage the data to reflect virtually any given conclusion. Nothing simpler, really.

We'd have to actually be able to examine the study to determine if someone is "hacking" the data. But comparing differences in populations is a common use of statistics and it could easily be used to make such an assessment; even in an honest manner.
 
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