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The Islamization of the free world

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Peace

Quran & Sunnah
The book of Islam also calls them right doers. Violent jihad is sanctioned and rewarded in the Sahih Bukhari. .

You should go and correct your false ideas about Jihad by looking up the meaning of Jihad.

Muhammad was almost constantly fighting people. He financed his ideology early on by robbing caravans. It wasn't all self defense

From where have you come up with these lies? :areyoucra have you dreamed about that or are you basing your poor knowledge on lies :sarcastic
 

Alla Prima

Well-Known Member
If you claimed that you read the Quran then you say what you said then I would say frankly you are either an idiot or blind.

It is astounding to me how any non Muslim could read the Koran and the Hadith and not see all the hatred, misogyny, division and the will to dominate all others.

We are discussing an ideology and it's effects on the West not my intelligence or my eyesight.
 

Alla Prima

Well-Known Member
You should go and correct your false ideas about Jihad by looking up the meaning of Jihad.

I corrected the lies told to me by Muslims yes.



From where have you come up with these lies? :areyoucra have you dreamed about that or are you basing your poor knowledge on lies :sarcastic

From the earliest biography of Muhammad and the collection of Hadith.
 

Elessar

Well-Known Member
That was one example. The list is rather exhustive. And I said Islam is tyrannical - it's principles are tyrannical not all Islamic nations are tyrannical though most are unless one is a Muslim of course. Islamic nations take their marching orders from the Koran and the collection of Hadith.

The list is exhaustive for some Islamic nations, this is accurate. But by no means are all Islamic nations as such. In fact, most primarily Islamic nations are secular. the "Islamic Republic" is a purely Perso-Arab construction, never found outside the Middle East. You never read stories of Islamic oppression from, say, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Tajikistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, Indonesia, or Mauritania, for a number of examples.
 

Peace

Quran & Sunnah
It is astounding to me how any non Muslim could read the Koran and the Hadith and not see all the hatred, misogyny, division and the will to dominate all others.

Not all non-muslims have a covering over their eyes and hearts and not all non-muslims have a black heart who is full of hatred.
The obvious increase of the number of people from different faiths and backgrounds embracing Islam is the best evidence that what you are claiming is just nonesense and that the word of truth will prevail.
 

Alla Prima

Well-Known Member
So you should correct your information by reading an accurate biography and authentic Hadith Books.

You mean one that would only show a limited and restricted view of Muhammad.

You guys crack me up. Any source you don't like or can't explain is the wrong or inaccurate source. This is known as the Presuppostional Defense.


1. A Muslim presuppositionalist assumes that all of the sayings and actions of Muhammad must be good.
2. Thus, any unfavorable historical record about Muhammad is automatically rejected as a false report, because the initial assumptions do not allow for any negative historical evidence.



And I read the Sahih Bukhari and the Sahih Muslim.
 
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Alla Prima

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Not all non-muslims have a covering over their eyes and hearts and not all non-muslims have a black heart who is full of hatred.

Are you saying I have a cover over my eyes and a heart which is black and full of hatred?



The obvious increase of the number of people from different faiths and backgrounds embracing Islam is the best evidence that what you are claiming is just nonesense and that the word of truth will prevail.


A lot of people chose to smoke tabacco too knowing full well the poison they where inhaling.
 

maro

muslimah
Also, I never met a person with a fouler view of Islamist terrorism than Aliyah. She routinely condemned Hamas, Hezbollah........ She strongly supports the existence of a Jewish state in Israel and, after some work, was convinced Jerusalem could remain fully in Israeli hands (though, she never approved of anti-Palestinian attacks, was and is antioccupation, and was virulently against this recent Gaza War).

i would like to thank you for drawing the picture of the perfect muslim , Aliyah...but just for the record , accepting the savage zionist occupation as legal...and calling the legal resistance organizations like Hamas terrorists is not a sign of moderation among the mainstrem muslims ..
Being a jew ,you may not like that ,but the mainstream muslim think that the terrorists are those who just ended a massacre among the civilians of gaza !!
 

Judgment

Active Member
Maro: i would like to thank you for drawing the picture of the perfect muslim , Aliyah...but just for the record , accepting the savage zionist occupation as legal...and calling the legal resistance organizations like Hamas terrorists is not a sign of moderation among the mainstrem muslims ..
Being a jew ,you may not like that ,but the mainstream muslim think that the terrorists are those who just ended a massacre among the civilians of gaza !!
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By Allah, if Fatima, the daughter of Muhammad stole, I would cut off her hand."
Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)



Hamas' main goal is the destruction of Israel - actually (insanely) written in their charter. First it was the suicide bombers walking in to buses and blowing themselves up, then into markets. They did not care who they killed - men, women and children. The only way Israel could stop the horrific attacks was to build the wall. Then... on a daily basis they had to deal with rockets being fired at them.

In my eyes Israel has just been saying Stop, Stop, STOP!!!!!! The People of Gaza are not all innocent - they voted Hamas in to power. They voted for a terrorist organization - so - they deserve the fire that has rained down upon them. They voted a group in knowing full well what they are about and what they have done. No one likes to see children killed... but Hamas uses civilians for cover. I believe Israel takes great care to avoid civilian casualties - but - in this case some are unavoidable. It is foolish to think otherwise - if they did not care about civilians being injured... they would just level everything in their path.

Muhammed would cut off his own daughters hand I see? And this is the last prophet that came to enlighten us ?

 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
i would like to thank you for drawing the picture of the perfect muslim , Aliyah...but just for the record , accepting the savage zionist occupation as legal...and calling the legal resistance organizations like Hamas terrorists is not a sign of moderation among the mainstrem muslims ..
Being a jew ,you may not like that ,but the mainstream muslim think that the terrorists are those who just ended a massacre among the civilians of gaza !!
savage zionist occupation. hmmmm... were did i hear that before. Oh, yeah the Byzentine Emperor. "The savage Arab occupation of our Holy Land". War is your only cause and war shall fall in the lap of theos who seek it. The Christians of Sudan must think the Muslim occupation as savage too. Then it would be correct for them to organize a "resistance organization" whose sole purpose is to wipe out all muslims and establish a "good Christian State"? My, How far the standards of Humanity have fallen.
 
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maro

muslimah
Hi Einstein. I notice your link - "Gaza: the death zone". Do you believe that Hamas has finally learned their lesson after being picked apart and embarrassed the last few weeks?
Are you saying that the mosques ,hospitals and schools that were bombed belong to hamas ? and that the civilians ,whose majority are women and children were killed to teach Hamas a lesson ?
The People of Gaza are not all innocent - they voted Hamas in to power. They voted for a terrorist organization - so - they deserve the fire that has rained down upon them.

actually ,i don't need to say anything else....you have just clearly declared your zionist mentality !!
 

Judgment

Active Member
Maro: Are you saying that the mosques ,hospitals and schools that were bombed belong to hamas ? and that the civilians ,whose majority are women and children were killed to teach Hamas a lesson ?

Me: No one likes to see children killed... but Hamas uses civilians for cover. I believe Israel takes great care to avoid civilian casualties - but - in this case some are unavoidable. It is foolish to think otherwise - if they did not care about civilians being injured... they would just level everything in their path.

What part did you not Understand Here?

Maro: actually ,i don't need to say anything else....you have just clearly declared your zionist mentality !!

What you are truly saying is you are unable to debate me.
 

Luminous

non-existential luminary
Are you saying that the mosques ,hospitals and schools that were bombed belong to hamas ? and that the civilians ,whose majority are women and children were killed to teach Hamas a lesson ?
:sarcastic: Yes, probably... Or maybe you are right. the Secular republic of Israel (though sadly influenced by religious/Zionist jews) is out to blindly kill peaceloving women and children. Because that is always helpful.



actually ,i don't need to say anything else....you have just clearly declared your zionist mentality !!
Think you know the truth and you shall never seek it; and therefore, risk never finding it.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
i would like to thank you for drawing the picture of the perfect muslim , Aliyah...but just for the record , accepting the savage zionist occupation as legal...and calling the legal resistance organizations like Hamas terrorists is not a sign of moderation among the mainstrem muslims ..
Being a jew ,you may not like that ,but the mainstream muslim think that the terrorists are those who just ended a massacre among the civilians of gaza !!

This is a sad post
 

.lava

Veteran Member
I would never do that. There are many organizations I would never give money to.

that's what i expected to hear from you. you do not want to have mosques near you but you come up and ask about churches of Iran. above all you asked the very same question in other thread and Muslims from different nations showed you there are churches in Muslim nations yet you ignore and ask again as if you're not answered before. why do you do that, Alla Prima? you know, this is not honest.


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.lava

Veteran Member
The book of Islam also calls them right doers. Violent jihad is sanctioned and rewarded in the Sahih Bukhari. Muhammad was almost constantly fighting people. He financed his ideology early on by robbing caravans. It wasn't all self defense.

oh dear, book of Islam is Qur'an. command of Allah is not to break peace but to defend when attacked. during war if the one who attacked ask for peace we have to take it.

Mohammad (PBUH) has never started any war. matter of fact when disbelievers started to kill and to torture Muslims, they did not fight back for years till verses that command them to fight back were revealed.

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