The Jason Aldean controversy

[Kfox]

Nobody said it was,

Then why did you bring Las Vegas into the conversation in your OP? the point is, small town people may not stop criminals from destroying a big city but they will stop criminals from destroying their small town.

 

[PureX]

Yeah; that’s kinda messed up; To boycott the beer company is one thing; but to threaten Dylan; there’s no reason for that. Hopefully those types are the exception not the rule

But concerning the OP (Jason Aldean controversy) I looked up several black people doing youtube reactions to the video, and I didn't see a single black person who said the song was racist or offensive; they sorta asked what was all of the fuss. I wonder who is really behind this controversy.

Just ask who stands to gain from it.

1. The "news" media that uses this stuff to constantly rile up their viewers to keep them watching (the ads).

2. Aldean himself who is now a 'celebrity', but not for his talent.

3. The record company and concert promoters that will cash in on his sudden fame.

4. Youtubers monetizing the 'clicks' they get from curios viewers.

 

[Father Heathen]

Then why did you bring Las Vegas into the conversation in your OP? the point is, small town people may not stop criminals from destroying a big city but they will stop criminals from destroying their small town.

My point was that their random civilian going rambo fantasy was demonstrated to be unrealistic. He was there, but keeps fueling the gun fetish circle jerk.

 

[Sand Dancer]

Facts are a different matter 2023 Crime Rates in U.S. Cities Report | SafeHome.org

The murder rate in extra-small cities has grown 42 percent in 10 years. Statistics also show that rape occurs in extra-small cities nearly as often as in the largest urban areas, and only in extra-small cities is a citizen more likely to be raped than robbed.

Giant metropolises record far more killings each year than extra-small cities, yet some smaller towns have a far higher rate of murder per capita. Three extra-small cities posted murder rates higher than 80 per 100K residents, and Greenwood, South Carolina was the deadliest.

The frequency of rapes in the three most dangerous extra-small cities also dwarfed the rate of far larger cities. Ypsilanti, Michigan registered 275 rapes per 100K residents – more than twice the number in nearby Detroit.
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Overall, America's largest cities have the highest crime rates, but standouts are found in towns of all sizes. Murders per capita are highest in some of the nation's extra-small urban areas, while small cities are now nearly as dangerous as midsized ones. Media figures and politicians alike focus on the crime rates in New York, Chicago, and Los Angeles. However, towns like Tulsa, Mobile, and Greenwood are actually more dangerous to the average inhabitant.

Big cities are where the people are but it's also where colleges, businesses, cultural activities, etc are. Crime is going to happen there. Small towns have crime because the only people who are there to commit them are those who couldn't leave when the manufacturing left. Mostly they are full of old white people, who generally don't commit crime, but the rest are those who resort to crime and drug use to deal with the misery. Generalizing, yes, but trying to show a difference between cities and small towns.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Yeah; that’s kinda messed up; To boycott the beer company is one thing; but to threaten Dylan; there’s no reason for that. Hopefully those types are the exception not the rule

Agreed.
So it turns out that a person has been "cancelled" in this case.

But concerning the OP (Jason Aldean controversy) I looked up several black people doing youtube reactions to the video, and I didn't see a single black person who said the song was racist or offensive; they sorta asked what was all of the fuss. I wonder who is really behind this controversy.

I don't know exactly either, but I'm not that familiar with country music and its culture.

 

[Kfox]

Just ask who stands to gain from it.

I'm not really interested in who stands to gain from it, (just because someone figured out a way to profit from evil doesn't mean they are responsible for it) I'm more interested in who started this.

 

[Kfox]

My point was that their random civilian going rambo fantasy was demonstrated to be unrealistic

It was only demonstrated to be unrealistic in the big city; not the small town.

. He was there, but keeps fueling the gun fetish circle jerk.

First of all; the city government allowing a bunch of hoodlums to take over the city, and destroy everything is a completely different situation than a sniper hiding and shooting people at random. You are comparing apples to oranges

 

[Kfox]

It was only demonstrated to be unrealistic in the big city; not the small town.

First of all; the city government allowing a bunch of hoodlums to take over the city, and destroy everything is a completely different situation than a sniper hiding and shooting people at random. You are comparing apples to oranges

 

[Kfox]

Agreed.
So it turns out that a person has been "cancelled" in this case.

I don't know exactly either, but I'm not that familiar with country music and its culture.

Me either. But it seems that there are those trying to make it a racist thing.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

The difference is that when the cancel a conservative song, it increases in sales by more than 1000% but when Bud Targets Disney, they go down in sales.

Apparently Woke Won't Work in World's Workplace. ( I must be getting tired)

Marilyn Manson became a household name because of pearl clutching, RW moms.
Bud went down for a few reasons with ire from LW and RW sources, Disney has long been in the sights of both sides, and Target? Yeah, sales going down over something that included threats of violence against employees, great thing to boast about.
You're not tired, you just have a very biased lens.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Be serious and consider Bud Light's target demographic.

That's what people think. In reality what hurt them so bad was gay bars ditching them due to them ditching what's her name.

Chicago LGBTQ bars drop Anheuser-Busch products after company distances itself from Dylan Mulvaney

"It was absolutely an easy decision," said Mark Robertson, co-owner of 2Bears Tavern Group. "They kept re-doubling their efforts to bow down to those who were spewing hate."

www.cbsnews.com

 

[The Hammer]

But it wasn't cancel culture.

Than what was it?

 

[PureX]

I'm not really interested in who stands to gain from it, (just because someone figured out a way to profit from evil doesn't mean they are responsible for it) I'm more interested in who started this.

Who started it is who is profiting from it. Which is why they started it. I'd put Jason Aldean at the front of that list. Along with the song-writing team and his record producers. Then followed by the greedy phony "news" outlets that are using it to keep their viewers riled up.

But I am not against Aldean making this kind of racist tripe and calling it art. It does speak for some people. And maybe it speaks for Aldean, too. Who knows. And that is partly his job as an artist/entertainer. It's exactly the kind of thing free speech and freedom of expression are all about.

Is he a charlatan making this stuff for money? Or is he an artist speaking his heart and mind? Or maybe both?

It doesn't matter. He has the right either way. As we have the right to ignore it, or even to protest it.

 

[Kfox]

Than what was it?

A boycott of a corporation's product

 

[Kfox]

Who started it is who is profiting from it.

Lots of people figure out a way to profit from something that somebody else started

But I am not against Aldean making this kind of racist tripe and calling it art.

What is racist about this video? I’ve looked at it, I’ve even went to youtube and watched black people viewing the video and commenting on it, and I couldn’t find a single black person objecting to the video; so please tell me, where is the racism in this video, because the only people I could find calling this video racist are white people (I'm assuming you are white).

 

[PureX]

Lots of people figure out a way to profit from something that somebody else started

What is racist about this video? I’ve looked at it, I’ve even went to youtube and watched black people viewing the video and commenting on it, and I couldn’t find a single black person objecting to the video; so please tell me, where is the racism in this video, because the only people I could find calling this video racist are white people (I'm assuming you are white).

That's the whole point of "signaling"; that it's not overt. So the creators can feign innocence.

And it doesn't matter if anyone is ACTUALLY offended. The whole point is to create the hubbub. To create controversy within the media echo chamber, whether it's real or not. Because that's how you get "famous". Especially among those who think it's great fun to "upset the snowflakes". Even if no one is actually upset. Or even cares. The illusion of it gets them excited, anyway.

 

[Kfox]

That's the whole point of "signaling"; that it's not overt. So the creators can feign innocence.

If the signal is so weak that nobody notices it, perhaps there is no signal at all but only an imagined one.

And it doesn't matter if anyone is ACTUALLY offended.

If nobody is offended, why the controversy?

The whole point is to create the hubbub. To create controversy within the media echo chamber, whether it's real or not. Because that's how you get "famous". Especially among those who think it's great fun to "upset the snowflakes".

But it’s the “snowflakes” that are making it a controversy! If they would just S**U, nobody would notice, nobody would care

Even if no one is actually upset. Or even cares. The illusion of it gets them excited, anyway.

The only ones I see getting excited are the snowflakes trying to remain offended for other people who are not offended.
Again; what is racist about this video?

 

[PureX]

If the signal is so weak that nobody notices it, perhaps there is no signal at all but only an imagined one.

But clearly, it was noticed. And then broadcast far and wide to make sure it would be as noticed as it possibly could be.

If nobody is offended, why the controversy?

It's a make-believe controversy, intended to feed the anger and stupidity of the people that want it to be a real controversy.

But it’s the “snowflakes” that are making it a controversy! If they would just S**U, nobody would notice, nobody would care

Are they? Or are they make-believe as well? Once that echo-chamber of lies gets started, it feeds itself.

The only ones I see getting excited are the snowflakes trying to remain offended for other people who are not offended.
Again; what is racist about this video?

But aren't you seeing (or rather, hearing about them) from the same echo chamber that told you it was a controversy in the first place?

I'm a very liberal socialist that despises most "country" music and I couldn't care less about Jason Aldeans song or how racist it is. Neither does anyone I know. Yet conservatives in the echo chamber LOVE to think they are driving the "snowflakes" crazy, and making their heads explode, and all that nonsense. So of course the echo chamber is going to tell them that. The whole point is to keep them tuning in for more (ads). And they do keep tuning in, and they do believe what they're being told, because they want to.

 

[Kfox]

But clearly, it was noticed. And then broadcast far and wide to make sure it would be as noticed as it possibly could be.

But it was noticed and broadcast far and wide by (from what I can tell) white snowflakes who are offended on behalf of black and brown people. (I guess since we weren’t offended by it, they have to be offended on our behalf because they know better)

It's a make-believe controversy, intended to feed the anger and stupidity of the people that want it to be a real controversy.

So white snowflakes made it a controversy intended to feed the anger and stupidity of other snowflakes because they want it to be a controversy?

But aren't you seeing (or rather, hearing about them) from the same echo chamber that told you it was a controversy in the first place?

Yes! The echo chamber controlled and supported by white snowflakes.

I'm a very liberal socialist that despises most "country" music and I couldn't care less about Jason Aldeans song or how racist it is. Neither does anyone I know.

You keep calling the song racist! My question is; what is racist about this song? Please be specific.

 

[PureX]

But it was noticed and broadcast far and wide by (from what I can tell) white snowflakes who are offended on behalf of black and brown people. (I guess since we weren’t offended by it, they have to be offended on our behalf because they know better)

So white snowflakes made it a controversy intended to feed the anger and stupidity of other snowflakes because they want it to be a controversy?

Yes! The echo chamber controlled and supported by white snowflakes.

You keep calling the song racist! My question is; what is racist about this song? Please be specific.

There are no offended "white snowflakes" up in arms. It's all fiction made up by the echo chamber to keep their angry racist viewers/listeners tuning in for more. And that audience loves imagining that 'one of theirs' (a redneck country singer) is making the people they despise most (liberal snowflakes) outraged and upset. So that's the story their echo chamber is giving them.

It's all about the money, of course. But these imbeciles can't tell the difference between fictional controversy created for their entertainment and phony news. Because they want to believe it's all real.