angellous is, in fact, a published scholar (albeit a young one). You, however, engage in drivel.
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The Jesus Myth
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angellous_evangellous
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(too busy trolling)
... how foolish you sound.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
Pretty much what I thought. It must just be the way of the Jesus myther.
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angellous_evangellous
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Jay, about half of my hair is gray now. :biglaugh:
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angellous_evangellous
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Nah, that's not fair.
I do have sympathy for "Jesus mythers" because it really is the result of a historical philosophy more than it is a responsible interpretation of history. (If that makes sense)
In other words, I have a deep respect for atheism inasmuchas it represents a beautifully constructed philosophy -- but the idiotic militant fools that are attacted to it that don't appreciate its beauty I have no time for.
There has to be intellectually responsible "Jesus mythers" -- I think that I've read one or two good scholars who thought this...
AmbiguousGuy
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I might be willing to go back and address your rebuttals to my Items #3-#6, but first I'd have to know what we're arguing about. As I say, the question "Was Jesus historical" makes no sense to me... and I really don't think it makes sense to anyone else, by which I mean that no one could defend what they mean by such a simple question. That's my opinion.
The question is: "What can we say with some degree of certainty, or what is our own personal opinion, as to the flesh-and-blood man upon whom the Jesus Story was based?"
Would you agree that my longer question seems more answerable than "Was Jesus historical?"
define jesus the historical character.
because I am also thinking that Thor (the norse god) was a historical character.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
I could agree with that. I would wish that some of those intellectually responsible Jesus mythers would present themselves though.
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angellous_evangellous
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Half of mine is not even there.
I suppose you defecate in private.
AmbiguousGuy
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But probably not so much as I long for a Biblical scholar to come here who is capable of arguing rationally and responsibly.
Really, how about we get back to the material and leave aside the personal jabs for awhile? It's pretty boring.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
As the OP states: After watching The God Who Wasn't There by Brian Flemming, I decided to write a book on the Jesus Myth. I've written papers for and against the subject in the past (as I've been on both sides of the issue), but decided to write a more in depth discussion on the subject, taking the position that a historical Jesus did in fact exist, but was not as the Bible portrays him.
As I would like this to be all inclusive, with me not leaving out anything that may be considered important, I would just like to get everyone's arguments for and against.
So basically, is the Jesus Myth true?
That is the OP, that is what the thread was started on. We can simplify and ask, was Jesus a historical figure or was he an imaginary figure that people created?
You are doubly wrong.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
Jesus, a historical figure, who lived in Palestine (specifically in Galilee, specifically in Nazareth), during the first century of the Common Era. An itinerate preacher, who later was crucified. After which, he was transformed into what the Bible states about him.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
Go ahead then. Offer some rebuttals or additional points. The ball has been in your court.But probably not so much as I long for a Biblical scholar to come here who is capable of arguing rationally and responsibly.
Really, how about we get back to the material and leave aside the personal jabs for awhile? It's pretty boring.
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angellous_evangellous
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Most of the time.
fallingblood
Agnostic Theist
That is why I just shave mine off. This way, going gray or loosing my hair is just one less thing to worry about. That and I like looking like Mr. Clean.Half of mine is not even there.
are you claiming Thor never existed as a historical character?
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