Ebionite
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Is there any objective way of determining rank?I believe the Quran says God rose some in rank, and says he doesn't replace a sign/proof except with the like of it or better.
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Is there any objective way of determining rank?I believe the Quran says God rose some in rank, and says he doesn't replace a sign/proof except with the like of it or better.
I would offer my view, not an official Baha'i view.Explain in what way Satan has been killed now. Otherwise there is no problem in that the day he been respited to is when Imam Mahdi rises. But Satan is not dead now so this hadith goes against your concept.
An Ahlulbayt are of one rank, no difference, since God blesses them together and they ascend together.Is there any objective way of determining rank?
SalamI would offer my view, not an official Baha'i view.
Satan is dead in my understanding of the Baha'i Writings, as I can now know there is no independent force of evil.
There is God = Good or there is lack of God = Evil.
There is no Satan but our own selves that turn away from God, evil is a subjective reality.
We have entered an age where we can do away with superstitions of evil having control.over us, we can understand it is a product of nature and nurture and medical imbalances.
Regards Tony
Shaytan is an enemy to you, so take him as an enemy. (35:6)إِنَّ الشَّيْطَانَ لَكُمْ عَدُوٌّ فَاتَّخِذُوهُ عَدُوًّا
Surely he has no authority over those who believe and who rely on their Lord. (16:99)إِنَّهُ لَيْسَ لَهُ سُلْطَانٌ عَلَى الَّذِينَ آمَنُواْ وَعَلَى رَبِّهِمْ يَتَوَكَّلُونَ
Ya Baha'ul Abha to that.Surely he has no authority over those who believe and who rely on their Lord. (16:99)
This says nothing about prophets who are not of the house of Muhammad, right?An Ahlulbayt are of one rank, no difference, since God blesses them together and they ascend together.
Different Ahlulbayts differ in rank, the later ones are higher then former.
Both of these truths are found in the Quran.
Every prophet is part of an Ahlulbayt. God always replaces one Ahlulbayt with a better one.This says nothing about prophets who are not of the house of Muhammad, right?
How do you know whether one was replaced or not?Every prophet is part of an Ahlulbayt. God always replaces one Ahlulbayt with a better one.
The Quran is proof for the final Ahlulbayt (a).How do you know whether one was replaced or not?
In other words, you can't say. There isn't even any reason to think that prophets and signs are the same thing.The Quran is proof for the final Ahlulbayt (a).
It's not for me to prove. God proves his guides, and he did so through Quran.In other words, you can't say. There isn't even any reason to think that prophets and signs are the same thing.
That's only a statement of faith. The Quran advocates the use of reason, not religious dogma.It's not for me to prove. God proves his guides, and he did so through Quran.
I've had other threads where I discussed how Quran is a proof. There isn't enough room in one post to prove the many miracles of Quran and it's exalted beyond human nature.That's only a statement of faith. The Quran advocates the use of reason, not religious dogma.
Your error (like that of most religions) is your attempt to own the interpretation of the canonoical text (in this case the Quran). The Quran advocates reason, but your response to the question of the prophets has been to conflate prophethood with signs, which are not the same thing.I've had other threads where I discussed how Quran is a proof. There isn't enough room in one post to prove the many miracles of Quran and it's exalted beyond human nature.