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The prophets tell us that THE SCRIBES HAD CHANGED THE GOD'S LAW

CMike

Well-Known Member
I began the conversation with you. If you can't gain more than 0% understanding of a very small, grammatically accurate, English paragraph - there's not much I can do.

CMike made a distinction between Jesus and God, - but not Moses and God. He is a Jewish idolator. Instead of Moses, Christians place Jesus as their primary source of idolatry. For Muslims, it is primarily Mohammed.
That's why I make it clear that Moses gave no laws. They all came from G-D.

Passover evening the entire story of Passover is retold.

Although Moses had a big role in getting out of Egypt and the getting the ten commandments, he is mentioned only once, and only as a "humble servant".

The relationship for a jew is between jew and G-D, no one else comes in between that relationship.

Also when the Ten Commandments were given all the jews heard it at one time. It wasn't transmitted via Moses.

BTW Moses is dead. He hasn't told us anything.
 
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Tumah

Veteran Member
I began the conversation with you. If you can't gain more than 0% understanding of a very small, grammatically accurate, English paragraph - there's not much I can do.

CMike made a distinction between Jesus and God, - but not Moses and God. He is a Jewish idolator. Instead of Moses, Christians place Jesus as their primary source of idolatry. For Muslims, it is primarily Mohammed.

Well, I'm not sure if you've ever heard this before, but context goes a long way towards explaining individual sentences. So since I didn't know the context, I had no idea what you were talking about.

It sounds as though you are using the word "idolatry" in place of "originator of religion".
What CMike was saying is that according to Jewish Scriptures, worshiping Jesus is performing idolatry. This parallel can't be made with Moses because Jews don't worship Moses. We don't see Moses as a deity.

Accepting prophecy is not the same as worshiping. This is true of Moses as well as Jesus.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
It sounds as though you are using the word "idolatry" in place of "originator of religion".
What CMike was saying is that according to Jewish Scriptures, worshiping Jesus is performing idolatry. This parallel can't be made with Moses because Jews don't worship Moses. We don't see Moses as a deity.

Moses is not God, but Jesus Christ himself is God. Jesus Christ is God made Man. And that is confirmed in the Gospel. The Gospel says so:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life".

Only God is the life. So Jesus Christ is God. And the Law of Christ is the true law of God.

 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Moses is not God, but Jesus Christ himself is God. Jesus Christ is God made Man. And that is confirmed in the Gospel. The Gospel says so:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life".

Only God is the life. So Jesus Christ is God. And the Law of Christ is the true law of God.


The way you explain it, it finally makes sense to me. I don't know why I didn't believe it until now. Your explanation and the way you prove it is so crystal clear. I will go say four heil Marry's and eat Jesus' left thigh dipped in his blood. Maybe have some of his toenail clippings for dessert. Then I will rush to find a priest/pastor/minister to convert and/or baptize me before Jesus' flesh and blood hits my large intestine.

Wow! The different formats really helps me express myself in a clear, intelligent manner.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
Moses is not God, but Jesus Christ himself is God. Jesus Christ is God made Man. And that is confirmed in the Gospel. The Gospel says so:

"Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, and the truth, and the life".

Only God is the life. So Jesus Christ is God. And the Law of Christ is the true law of God.
We believe the chrisitan bible is wrong.

However, christians should be christiand, and jews should be jews.

Whatever floats your boat.

That said christianity is no where supported by the Tanach. It shouldn't be. Christianity is an entirely different religion.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
That's why I make it clear that Moses gave no laws. They all came from G-D.

Passover evening the entire story of Passover is retold.

Although Moses had a big role in getting out of Egypt and the getting the ten commandments, he is mentioned only once, and only as a "humble servant".

The relationship for a jew is between jew and G-D, no one else comes in between that relationship.

Also when the Ten Commandments were given all the jews heard it at one time. It wasn't transmitted via Moses.

BTW Moses is dead. He hasn't told us anything.


It is as simple for you to state that commands were given by God, as it is for any Christian or Muslim.. Or even the polytheists.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Well, I'm not sure if you've ever heard this before, but context goes a long way towards explaining individual sentences. So since I didn't know the context, I had no idea what you were talking about.
Why didn't you know the context? Did you look?

It sounds as though you are using the word "idolatry" in place of "originator of religion".
What CMike was saying is that according to Jewish Scriptures, worshiping Jesus is performing idolatry. This parallel can't be made with Moses because Jews don't worship Moses. We don't see Moses as a deity.

Accepting prophecy is not the same as worshiping. This is true of Moses as well as Jesus.

When Jews accept lies, and misinformation (knowingly or unknowingly) from Moses, or any other "Prophet"- they are idolaters. When Christians do the same of Jesus, or any other "Apostle", they are likewise idolaters.

In fact, any person believing a lie is cursed.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
We believe the chrisitan bible is wrong.

However, christians should be christiand, and jews should be jews.

Whatever floats your boat.

That said christianity is no where supported by the Tanach. It shouldn't be. Christianity is an entirely different religion.

The "Christianity" should be a different religion, but neither the Jews nor the Judaizers want it to be a different religion, because they want Judaizing Christianity, and they want the christianity to be a worshiper of the laws of the Old Testament.

Jesus abolished many laws of the Old Testament, and the Jews and Judaizing not recognize the teaching of Jesus Christ. Now let's see some Old Testament commandments abolished by Jesus Christ:


The Law that Jesus came not to abolish is the Law of the Gospel, which is the true Law of God. But Jesus Christ abolished many commandments of the Old Testament because they were not God's true Law. The Gospel says so:

"It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. Nevertheless I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of prostitution, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced, commits adultery" (Matthew 5:...)


The jews of that time wrote in the law of the Old Testament that could separated from women for many reasons when they tired of them, but Jesus abolished these commandments. These commandments were written into the Old Testament and Jesus Christ abolished them.

"Again you have heard that it was said by them of old not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord. Nevertheless I tell you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for is the footstool of his feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because you can not do a single white or black hair. But let your ' Yes, yes, no, no, because what is more than these cometh of evil" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were accustomed to swear in many cases, and so wrote it in the laws of the Old Testament... The Lord abolished these precepts of the oaths.


The law of retaliation ("Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth") ABOLISHED BY JESUS CHRIST

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also, and whosoever want to get to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your coat also, and whosoever shall compel thee to go one mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were in the habit of applying the talionis law (law of revenge) in their judgments (eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn... and so on.), And so they wrote it in the laws of the old Testament (Exodus 21:24-25). The Lord abolished this law of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" because it was a law that did not included forgiveness or mercy, then weren't God's Law, because what God likes is the mercy.


"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you...." (Matthew 5...)

The Jews, often beheaded or hanged his enemies, and not only to them, but then, as says the laws of the Old Testament, entered the conquered peoples and in many cases children and women were slaughtered... Jesus Christ abolished these Old Testament laws and commands us to love our enemies.


Other Old Testament laws abolished by Jesus Christ:

"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be dead". (Leviticus 20:10)

"And the daughter of any priest, if she fornicate, dishonor his father; she shall be burnt with fire" (Leviticus 21:9)


That Is not what Jesus did with the adulterous woman in the Gospel Example:

"And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst, they say unto him, Teacher, this woman hath been taken in adultery, in the very act. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such: what then sayest thou of her? And this they said, trying him, that they might have whereof to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground.

But when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground. And they, when they heard it, went out one by one, beginning from the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the midst. And Jesus lifted up himself, and said unto her, Woman, where are they? did no man condemn thee? And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more. Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life". (Juan 8:3-12)

With this teaching, Jesus abolished the Old Testament commandments that ordered kill people for various reasons. So far we have collected some examples of Old Testament commandments that Jesus abolished, but the argument that Jesus had with the Jews because of the law, is much broader and at this discussion is devoted a large part of the Gospel. Jesus taught us the true law of God.


 

roger1440

I do stuff
You're like a broken record, repeating the same verses over and over and over again.

At some point it might be interesting to count how many times you can quote the verse in Jeremiah without context and with no understanding of context.

Peter
Yeah, what he said. I was just going to write the same thing until I read your post. He must be really, really good by now at copying and pasting by now.
 

RabbiO

הרב יונה בן זכריה
The "Christianity" should be a different religion, but neither the Jews nor the Judaizers want it to be a different religion, because they want Judaizing Christianity, and they want the christianity to be a worshiper of the laws of the Old Testament............

:facepalm::facepalm:

I know I am going to hate myself in the morning, but where did you come up with that one??

Peter
 

metis

aged ecumenical anthropologist
The Law that Jesus came not to abolish is the Law of the Gospel, which is the true Law of God. But Jesus Christ abolished many commandments of the Old Testament because they were not God's true Law. The Gospel says so:


But the fact that you keep avoiding is that Torah and Tanakh clearly state that the Law-- all of it-- are "perpetual" and "forever", plus the mark of a false prophet is one that tells people that the Law can be voided or ignored.
 

CMike

Well-Known Member
The "Christianity" should be a different religion, but neither the Jews nor the Judaizers want it to be a different religion, because they want Judaizing Christianity, and they want the christianity to be a worshiper of the laws of the Old Testament.

Jesus abolished many laws of the Old Testament, and the Jews and Judaizing not recognize the teaching of Jesus Christ. Now let's see some Old Testament commandments abolished by Jesus Christ:

The Law that Jesus came not to abolish is the Law of the Gospel, which is the true Law of God. But Jesus Christ abolished many commandments of the Old Testament because they were not God's true Law. The Gospel says so:

"It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. Nevertheless I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of prostitution, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced, commits adultery" (Matthew 5:...)

The jews of that time wrote in the law of the Old Testament that could separated from women for many reasons when they tired of them, but Jesus abolished these commandments. These commandments were written into the Old Testament and Jesus Christ abolished them.

"Again you have heard that it was said by them of old not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord. Nevertheless I tell you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for is the footstool of his feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because you can not do a single white or black hair. But let your ' Yes, yes, no, no, because what is more than these cometh of evil" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were accustomed to swear in many cases, and so wrote it in the laws of the Old Testament... The Lord abolished these precepts of the oaths.

The law of retaliation ("Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth") ABOLISHED BY JESUS CHRIST

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also, and whosoever want to get to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your coat also, and whosoever shall compel thee to go one mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were in the habit of applying the talionis law (law of revenge) in their judgments (eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn... and so on.), And so they wrote it in the laws of the old Testament (Exodus 21:24-25). The Lord abolished this law of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" because it was a law that did not included forgiveness or mercy, then weren't God's Law, because what God likes is the mercy.

"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you...." (Matthew 5...)

The Jews, often beheaded or hanged his enemies, and not only to them, but then, as says the laws of the Old Testament, entered the conquered peoples and in many cases children and women were slaughtered... Jesus Christ abolished these Old Testament laws and commands us to love our enemies.

Other Old Testament laws abolished by Jesus Christ:

"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be dead". (Leviticus 20:10)

"And the daughter of any priest, if she fornicate, dishonor his father; she shall be burnt with fire" (Leviticus 21:9)

That Is not what Jesus did with the adulterous woman in the Gospel Example:

"And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst, they say unto him, Teacher, this woman hath been taken in adultery, in the very act. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such: what then sayest thou of her? And this they said, trying him, that they might have whereof to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground.

But when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground. And they, when they heard it, went out one by one, beginning from the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the midst. And Jesus lifted up himself, and said unto her, Woman, where are they? did no man condemn thee? And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more. Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life". (Juan 8:3-12)

With this teaching, Jesus abolished the Old Testament commandments that ordered kill people for various reasons. So far we have collected some examples of Old Testament commandments that Jesus abolished, but the argument that Jesus had with the Jews because of the law, is much broader and at this discussion is devoted a large part of the Gospel. Jesus taught us the true law of God.
Jesus can't abolish what G-D said. That within itself is a great insult to G-D.

You may recall these pearls that jesus said...

Luke 19:27

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"


Matthew 10:35

For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law:
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Jesus can't abolish what G-D said. That within itself is a great insult to G-D.

You may recall these pearls that jesus said...

Luke 19:27

But those enemies of mine who did not want me to be king over them--bring them here and kill them in front of me.'"


Matthew 10:35

For I have come to put a man against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law:



Ezekiel 32:28
And the sons of Levi do according to the word of Moses, and there fall of the people on that day about three thousand men.

Micah 7:6
For a son is dishonouring a father, A daughter hath stood against her mother, A daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law, The enemies of each are the men of his house.

Why do you think Jesus draws attention to Micah 7?

Micah 7:2
The godly man is perished out of the earth, and the upright among men is no more; they all lie in wait for blood; they hunt every man his brother with a net.

Recall who the sons of Levi had been commanded to kill.

Micah 7:3
Their hands are upon that which is evil to do it diligently; the prince asketh, and the judge is ready for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth the evil desire of his soul; thus they weave it together.

Recall what Israel is doing now- following the Gentiles, to build abominations of desolation the whole World may come to appreciate. Nuclear weapons and Israel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Micah 7:4-5 The best of them is as a brier; the most upright is worse than a thorn hedge; the day of thy watchmen, even thy visitation, is come; now shall be their perplexity. Trust ye not in a friend, put ye not confidence in a familiar friend; keep the doors of thy mouth from her that lieth in thy bosom.

Matthew 6:3-4
Take heed your kindness not to do before men, to be seen by them, and if not -- reward ye have not from your Father who [is] in the heavens; whenever, therefore, thou mayest do kindness, thou mayest not sound a trumpet before thee as the hypocrites do, in the synagogues, and in the streets, that they may have glory from men; verily I say to you -- they have their reward! But thou, doing kindness, let not thy left hand know what thy right hand doth, that thy kindness may be in secret, and thy Father who is seeing in secret Himself shall reward thee manifestly.


Micah 7:6
For the son dishonoureth the father, the daughter riseth up against her mother, the daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law; a man's enemies are the men of his own house.

Recall growing up. Recall life. Who hasn't disagreed with themselves, let alone their own family? Ask Moses and the Levites. Ask each of the 12 tribes.

Micah 7:9
I will bear the indignation of the LORD, because I have sinned against Him; until He plead my cause, and execute judgment for me; He will bring me forth to the light, and I shall behold His righteousness.

The man who notices and hates his sin may repent. This is one possible outcome of guilt; the sin becomes a memorial for God's salvation.

Micah 7:17
They shall lick the dust like a serpent; like crawling things of the earth they shall come trembling out of their close places; they shall come with fear unto the LORD our God, and shall be afraid because of Thee.

Look at the amount of power God has put into our hands today, and yet millions and millions of His heritage will starve. http://http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Precision_agriculture#Precision_agriculture_around_the_world

Micah 7:18-19 Who is a God like unto Thee, that pardoneth the iniquity, and passeth by the transgression of the remnant of His heritage? He retaineth not His anger for ever, because He delighteth in mercy. He will again have compassion upon us; He will subdue our iniquities; and Thou wilt cast all their sins into the depths of the sea.
 
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Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
But the fact that you keep avoiding is that Torah and Tanakh clearly state that the Law-- all of it-- are "perpetual" and "forever", plus the mark of a false prophet is one that tells people that the Law can be voided or ignored.

Jeremiah 33:17-18

For thus saith the LORD: There shall not be cut off unto David a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; neither shall there be cut off unto the priests the Levites a man before Me to offer burnt-offerings, and to burn meal-offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.
 

Tumah

Veteran Member
Jeremiah 33:17-18

For thus saith the LORD: There shall not be cut off unto David a man to sit upon the throne of the house of Israel; neither shall there be cut off unto the priests the Levites a man before Me to offer burnt-offerings, and to burn meal-offerings, and to do sacrifice continually.

Both of these are still true today. No one else is allowed to sit on the throne besides David. Similarly, no one besides Priests and Levites can perform Temple service.

What is missing is the throne and the Temple. Not the house of David and Levi.
 

Sleeppy

Fatalist. Christian. Pacifist.
Both of these are still true today. No one else is allowed to sit on the throne besides David. Similarly, no one besides Priests and Levites can perform Temple service.

What is missing is the throne and the Temple. Not the house of David and Levi.

In other words, there is no son on David's throne, and the Levites no longer perform sacrifices, continually. Both statements could be (completely) true, but they aren't; they've been made useless.
 

Porque77

The Gospel is God's Law
But the fact that you keep avoiding is that Torah and Tanakh clearly state that the Law-- all of it-- are "perpetual" and "forever", plus the mark of a false prophet is one that tells people that the Law can be voided or ignored.

Hello friend, the Old Testament Law was abolished, and I'm not who says it, the Gospel says it. Below, in the following quote, I remember you some commandments abolished by Jesus Christ:

Jesus abolished many laws of the Old Testament, and the Jews and Judaizing not recognize the teaching of Jesus Christ. Now let's see some Old Testament commandments abolished by Jesus Christ:

The Law that Jesus came not to abolish is the Law of the Gospel, which is the true Law of God. But Jesus Christ abolished many commandments of the Old Testament because they were not God's true Law. The Gospel says so:

"It was also said, 'Whoever divorces his wife must give her a certificate of divorce. Nevertheless I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for the cause of prostitution, makes her commit adultery, and whoever marries a divorced, commits adultery" (Matthew 5:...)


The jews of that time wrote in the law of the Old Testament that could separated from women for many reasons when they tired of them, but Jesus abolished these commandments. These commandments were written into the Old Testament and Jesus Christ abolished them.

"Again you have heard that it was said by them of old not swear falsely, but shall perform your oaths to the Lord. Nevertheless I tell you, Do not swear at all, either by heaven, for it is the throne of God, or by the earth, for is the footstool of his feet, or by Jerusalem, for it is the city of the great King. neither shalt thou swear by thy head, because you can not do a single white or black hair. But let your ' Yes, yes, no, no, because what is more than these cometh of evil" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were accustomed to swear in many cases, and so wrote it in the laws of the Old Testament... The Lord abolished these precepts of the oaths.


The law of retaliation ("Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth") ABOLISHED BY JESUS CHRIST

"You have heard that it was said, 'Eye for eye, and tooth for tooth.' But I tell you, Do not resist an evil person but whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn to him the other also, and whosoever want to get to sue you and take your tunic, let him have your coat also, and whosoever shall compel thee to go one mile, go with him twain. Give to him that asketh thee, and from him that would borrow of thee turn not thou away" (Matthew 5:...)

The Jews were in the habit of applying the talionis law (law of revenge) in their judgments (eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burn for burn... and so on.), And so they wrote it in the laws of the old Testament (Exodus 21:24-25). The Lord abolished this law of "an eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth" because it was a law that did not included forgiveness or mercy, then weren't God's Law, because what God likes is the mercy.


"You have heard that it was said, 'Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.' But I tell you: Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for those who spitefully use you and persecute you...." (Matthew 5...)

The Jews, often beheaded or hanged his enemies, and not only to them, but then, as says the laws of the Old Testament, entered the conquered peoples and in many cases children and women were slaughtered... Jesus Christ abolished these Old Testament laws and commands us to love our enemies.


Other Old Testament laws abolished by Jesus Christ:

"If a man commits adultery with his neighbor's wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall surely be dead". (Leviticus 20:10)

"And the daughter of any priest, if she fornicate, dishonor his father; she shall be burnt with fire" (Leviticus 21:9)


That Is not what Jesus did with the adulterous woman in the Gospel Example:

"And the scribes and the Pharisees bring a woman taken in adultery; and having set her in the midst, they say unto him, Teacher, this woman hath been taken in adultery, in the very act. Now in the law Moses commanded us to stone such: what then sayest thou of her? And this they said, trying him, that they might have whereof to accuse him. But Jesus stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground.

But when they continued asking him, he lifted up himself, and said unto them, He that is without sin among you, let him first cast a stone at her. And again he stooped down, and with his finger wrote on the ground. And they, when they heard it, went out one by one, beginning from the eldest, even unto the last: and Jesus was left alone, and the woman, where she was, in the midst. And Jesus lifted up himself, and said unto her, Woman, where are they? did no man condemn thee? And she said, No man, Lord. And Jesus said, Neither do I condemn thee: go thy way; from henceforth sin no more. Again therefore Jesus spake unto them, saying, I am the light of the world: he that followeth me shall not walk in the darkness, but shall have the light of life". (Juan 8:3-12)

With this teaching, Jesus abolished the Old Testament commandments that ordered kill people for various reasons. So far we have collected some examples of Old Testament commandments that Jesus abolished, but the argument that Jesus had with the Jews because of the law, is much broader and at this discussion is devoted a large part of the Gospel. Jesus taught us the true law of God.
 
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